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Thu 26th Sep 2013 20:43

I love these back peddling poems Steve,but boy! do they make me feel old-haha! thanks.x

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Adrienne Silcock

Thu 26th Sep 2013 20:25

Thanks, Cynthia Buell Thomas for your comments!

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John Coopey

Thu 26th Sep 2013 19:56

Thoroughly enjoyed the imagery, Simon. I agree with Graham about the inversions, especially "do dine". I did however like the ambiguity of the dangling modifier created in "I build a raft to sail it down a river painted red". I quite like not knowing whether its the river, the raft or I who's painted red.

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John Coopey

Thu 26th Sep 2013 19:42

Very tight and neat, Thomas (although I question the wisdom of waiting till they die to have another beer).

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Thu 26th Sep 2013 19:34

As you already know, I love this. It's very heartfelt. Almost as if you were in my head.

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Julian (Admin)

Thu 26th Sep 2013 18:12

Excellent. what was it Adrian Mitchell said? Most people ignore most poetry because most poetry ignores most people. Good on you, Smokestack Books.

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Cynthia Buell Thomas

Thu 26th Sep 2013 17:10

Your signature 'shaft' straight to the heart of the reader, exposing so poetically a universal experience. Your craft and graft make your poetry always top quality.

(LOL, I did not do that on purpose -'-aft', so I'm leaving it.)

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Cynthia Buell Thomas

Thu 26th Sep 2013 16:52

I had to read it three times to fully appreciate the metaphors, and then it became a fine poem. IMO, the reader doesn't need to know what your vision is - it is yours only, and the poem is about the realization that you have one.

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Cynthia Buell Thomas

Thu 26th Sep 2013 16:40

This has mood - 'not wanting to feel the touch of another soul'; 'a longing that needs feeding' etc. very powerful imagery. At least I think it is 'poetic' imagery.

There are many good ideas, but I did start to flounder through them a bit. I think this has the symbolism approach of Indian poetry, but I'm not sure. Maybe it is the 'gypsy' effect I see in the picture that influences me, recalling 'gypsy' origins.

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Cynthia Buell Thomas

Thu 26th Sep 2013 16:22

Delightful - comedy with a deft touch.

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Cynthia Buell Thomas

Thu 26th Sep 2013 16:19

Major point - major funny. Good way to do it - stick them while they're laughing.

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Cynthia Buell Thomas

Thu 26th Sep 2013 16:08

I do like this. It seems that the faster one reads it, the better it sounds, because the rhyme scheme takes over, and your very imaginative ideas seem to 'brush in' together.

Would you consider a different pattern of lines, one that would highlight your rhyming? Or is this a deliberate effort to do exactly NOT that?

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Nigel Astell

Thu 26th Sep 2013 15:46

Thanks for the books A Harvest of Art John

Are you taking Christmas bookings yet for the next one?

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Cynthia Buell Thomas

Thu 26th Sep 2013 15:41

Penetrating, and beautifully crafted. I really enjoyed this, and will return to it often, just for my pleasure.

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Frances Spurrier

Thu 26th Sep 2013 13:42

Great article Cynthia. I like the title. I think the 'don't feel a poem has to rhyme' mantra has been taken too far.

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Laura Taylor

Thu 26th Sep 2013 12:40

Thanks Steve!

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Laura Taylor

Thu 26th Sep 2013 11:17

Harry - about this:

"metaphor and simile is that it should be fairly and universally accessible (and not some private inaccessible private mind - world of an individual)"

how exactly do you KNOW what is 'universally accessible'? There are some of my poems that you have been unable to understand, and I've thought they were blindingly obvious.

And - if you do somehow chance upon something that IS 'universally accessible', where do you draw the line between that and 'glaringly obvious' or 'cliched'?


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Thu 26th Sep 2013 11:10

the lesson of life is
to learn how to love

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Graham Sherwood

Thu 26th Sep 2013 10:04

Crikey, a masterclass here Cynthia. A lot of this goes over my head as it sounds like a checklist for the performance brigade (the majority on here I suspect).
I do not however agree with the comments about trusting the lips and the tongue.
Obviously, if a piece is going to be read aloud it should be easy to project and words therefore may be changed to effect this. However if read "in the head" these sort of amendments do not need to be made.

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Graham Sherwood

Thu 26th Sep 2013 09:50

This is really an accomplished piece of writing Simon. I'm not too keen on the reversal of some lines to make rhyme (here do dine, set fires new etc) but there really are a lot of clever ideas in this and some wonderful terms.

Good work,

Graham

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John Coopey

Thu 26th Sep 2013 09:42

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dorinda macdowell

Thu 26th Sep 2013 08:41

I have just watched the video: WOW! (Julian: it sounds somewhat along the lines of something I had proposed some time ago here where I live in Offerton which unfortunately never got off the ground due to a sudden lack of council funding - I'm sure you remember that?) I am going to get more details from the link provided: I believe it's something we all of us at WOL Stockport have the gifts and abilities which may encourage someone to develop their creativity!

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Mr Dean Carroll

Thu 26th Sep 2013 05:56

Thanks for your comment on Religious Dogma Jane. As an atheist I found it something topical to write about. cheers

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Steve Higgins

Wed 25th Sep 2013 22:59

The secret of life is this;
You are born -then you die. As for the bit in between, well thats the great mystery as Native Americans say.
This poem has a great feel to it,
best wishes, Steve

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Steve Higgins

Wed 25th Sep 2013 22:53

All those poems I've written while semi asleep and how I've scrabbled for my notebook to jot them down when I awake. Few have made it to my computer . .
Enjoyable piece,
Steve

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Harry O'Neill

Wed 25th Sep 2013 22:47

Cynthia wise words wisely said.

Your points about poetic creation and presentation could hardly be bettered.

Rhyme has indeed been academically bullied out of todays `serious` poetry and the only way back back for it will be along the lines of your insistence on the primacy of rhythm. (and serious pleasure in the sound of a serious poem). You are spot on that poetry is essentially oral, and that our eyes translate the `music` of it even from the page.

Poems are indeed a `placement of words along a pre-figured pattern of interpretation`. that pre-figuration is a coherence of chosen words which take additional strength from the poet`s choice of placement, and in doing so sometimes say more than even the poet himself realises. The poet`s intention, (choice or exclusion of the words) is what is deliberated -the result is what the poem does with those words.

The only thing I would add to the timely points you make about metaphor and simile is that it should be fairly and universally accessible (and not some private inaccessible private mind - world of an individual)

That our eyes translate music even from the page much needed saying – as did your words about structured poetry, and the available structures. I would have liked more on the relation of structure to the typographical shape of the poem on the page.

Your points about performance are very helpful I wonder – when the whole person is up there before the audience – what part the individual personality plays?

A very enjoyable, informed, and valuable essay

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Steve Higgins

Wed 25th Sep 2013 22:41

Interesting work, complete with photograph to complete the mental imagery!
Many, many years ago when I was a bus driver, no bus company toilet was complete without the logo
'here I sit broken hearted -missed a trip and only farted' which referred to how a driver could request his bus journey to be covered by another driver if he needed to use the toilet!
-Steve

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John Coopey

Wed 25th Sep 2013 21:45

Loved the rhythm in this Marksy. I'm sitting in the window seat (facing forward, of course) when I read this.

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John Coopey

Wed 25th Sep 2013 21:41

Glad you enjoyed "I'm The Urbane Statesman", Marksy.

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Shirley Smothers

Wed 25th Sep 2013 19:46

Nice writing.
Gives one pause to think.
I often ponder is my life a dream, or is my dream life.
Enjoyed this

Shirley

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Isobel

Wed 25th Sep 2013 16:20

I like it Ian - it's fascinating to think that we are all surrounded by particles of other people.

I like the flow you've got going in this non rhyming piece - and I love the catch at the end.

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Lynn Dye

Wed 25th Sep 2013 15:54

I enjoyed this very much and agree with Solar, a great poem.

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Marianne Louise Daniels

Wed 25th Sep 2013 14:44

thank you for reading.

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Cathy Crabb

Wed 25th Sep 2013 12:16

Thank you for that xxx When I reach the end of my understanding of numbers I think- that's the key to life itself- that bit I don't understand!

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Simon Marks

Wed 25th Sep 2013 11:42

Ah, trains now are so quiet I find there's a lot less of the clackety-clack than before - hence the "silent window frames" line.
Also means you can hear other people's banal conversations too, but that's another rant, another time...
Cheers anyway!

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Simon Austin

Wed 25th Sep 2013 10:01

Thank you very much SW, I'm glad you enjoyed it.

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Gareth Glyn Roberts

Wed 25th Sep 2013 09:54

Thank you Solar!

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Chris Co

Wed 25th Sep 2013 02:03

Such people have no respect for the dignity of human life. Very sad individually and for all those involved.

The poem they have published in his honour is seriously good. It makes me want to read more, I guess it will have the same effect upon others.

Not sure if there could be a more fitting tribute.

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Steve Higgins

Tue 24th Sep 2013 23:12

Ta for looking in on 'Some Love' Marksy. Been away for a month in France and thought I'd come back with a notebook full of poems. (I didn't) Actually wrote 'Some Love' during a lull at work!
All the best, Steve

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Dali

Tue 24th Sep 2013 22:49

Beautifully straight to the point!

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Tue 24th Sep 2013 22:23

Cool Dali-o!x

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Tue 24th Sep 2013 22:20

very much enjoyed Larisa.Best wishes.x

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Tue 24th Sep 2013 22:13

Loved the poem Frederick.I have no fear of 'real' books disappearing,hence my basement library!x

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Tue 24th Sep 2013 22:08

enjoyed the poem.Will check out the link later.

Thank you.x

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<Deleted User> (9882)

Tue 24th Sep 2013 22:00

I LOVE your limerick'y work!x

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Tue 24th Sep 2013 21:58

well crafted poem.x

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Tue 24th Sep 2013 21:55

I couldnt quite get the clackety-clack rhythm,but a great poem nevertheless.x

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Tue 24th Sep 2013 21:44

very much enjoyed piece of social history.x

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Tue 24th Sep 2013 21:41

fantasy in full and beautiful flow.x

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Tue 24th Sep 2013 21:39

Praise be for great poetry!x

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