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THE MAN WHO MADE MODERN BRITAIN

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It will not have escaped the notice of newswatchers that we have just marked the 50th anniversary of Churchill’s death.  Like him or loathe him, he was one of the great shapers of modern Britain.  So too was Arthur Greenwood.

In May 1940 Britain stood on the brink of defeat against Nazi Germany.  Its army was stranded on the beaches of Dunkirk with little prospect of rescue.  Hitler was days away from viewing Britain’s south coast from France’s northern.  Plans had been made to evacuate the Royal Family along with the Bank of England’s gold and the government to Canada.

Against this military background there met an inner sanctum of five government grandees to discuss options. Essentially there were two – shit or bust; sue for peace terms with Hitler ie surrender or fight on.

The peace terms centred on the mutual recognition of Hitler’s right to mainland Europe while Britain would retain her Empire and navy.  It was proposed to approach Mussolini to broker the deal who might get Gibraltar, Malta, Suez, Kenya and Uganda for his troubles.

The five men consisted of Churchill, Prime Minister of 18 days and considered by many even in his own Party as a loose and drunken canon; Chamberlain, his predecessor, whom Hitler had transformed overnight from peacekeeping hero to gullible mug; Lord Halifax, aristocratic and aloof, who found Hitler “most sincere”; Clem Attlee, the dull and recently elected leader of the Labour Party; and Arthur Greenwood, innocuous Labour MP and sometime deputy for Attlee.

Chamberlain and Halifax were for terms, while Churchill was for war.  Attlee and Greenwood were likewise for continuing the fight and without these two’s support Britain may have surrendered. 

From their carrying of the vote that day 3-2 much of what we have become follows.

               There would have been no war with Germany

               Nazism would have dominated Western Europe rather than Communism Eastern Europe

               Britain’s decline as a world power would not have been so immediate

               The Empire would not have disintegrated so rapidly

               Labour would not have come to power in 1945 on a tide of expectation for social change

               The NHS, welfare and social insurance would not take their current shape

               The role of women who staffed the munitions factories would have developed differently

               The culture of 1930’s deference and class acceptance would have continued longer

All of these things may or may not have happened to a greater or lesser degree anyway but Andrew Marr in his excellent book, “A History of Modern Britain” (from which this piece has been shamefully purloined) argues that this Shit-or-Bust meeting of 28 May 1940 has as justifiable a claim to be the start of Modern Britain as any.

Marr describes Greenwood as a man who had a “lifelong fight with the bottle” in which “the bottle won every round”.

But each and every one of us owes much of what we are to Arthur Greenwood.

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John Coopey

Wed 4th Feb 2015 12:39

Thanks, MC. I'll follow up the lead.

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M.C. Newberry

Wed 4th Feb 2015 10:55

Hello JC - History is indeed a wondrous subject
that can teach, inform, educate and entertain.
On a personal note mixed with the wider theatre
of service in war, may I recommend you look up
the experiences of Air Marshal Sir Victor Goddard KCB CBE.
A friend of Barnes Wallis, Goddard had a most
interesting life - with some of his experiences
appearing to be of a precognitive type that
saw/anticipated future events. He wrote three
books, one of which - "Flight Into Reality", I
acquired a while ago.
The extraordinary account of how one of his
experiences was made into the film "The Night
My Number Came Up" is eerie indeed and can be
found in detail - with others - online at www.llewellyn.com...and is also referred to
in his Wikipedia entry.
Incredible stuff!

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John Coopey

Mon 2nd Feb 2015 22:44

Hello MC,
If a crystal ball helps us see into the Future we need to invent something which enables us to see into an alternative Present.
I love history.

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John Coopey

Mon 2nd Feb 2015 22:14

Harry,
Interesting thoughts.
I suppose ultimately anyone who has to make decisions is judged on their quality and in that sense Chamberlain got it wrong and Churchill got it right. But it's easy when you have hindsight as we have. I can tell you with certainty that Arsenal won the Cup last year. I can't tell you who won it this year.
On another front, do you think it was those powdered eggs that scrambled my and your brains?

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M.C. Newberry

Mon 2nd Feb 2015 21:42

Backward glances are always fascinating games
of "what if?".
What if...
GB had gone down to the Nazis dominating Europe - duplicitously eyeing up the wealth
promised by the Russian Empire - and with
Japan eager to seize her own wealth/power as an
ally? Would the Empire have collapsed, with Canada & Oz in particular becoming jumping off
posts for Japan & Germany to threaten the USA
and Asia respectively between them? America was hardly ready prior to Pearl Harbour for any military
adventuring on any large scale? The
refuge afforded Nazi war criminals by S.
American countries post-war indicates
that the Nazis had their friends "south
of the border".
And would the death camps run by both the Nazis
and the Japs have become established across the
conquered world in greatly extended efforts
to achieve the aims of racial "ethnic purity" and superiority through
elimination of numbers.
That alone was reason enough for the emerging
third world to join with the Allies in fighting
a common enemy that became a byword for
subhuman savagery.

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Harry O'Neill

Mon 2nd Feb 2015 20:40

John,
I was impressed by your fairness to Chamberlain.

As a ten year old kid at that time, I didn`t understand much about what was going on, but I vividly remember sensing the change in the atmosphere from hope that it wouldn`t happen to an almost relieved sense of `that`s it! we`re in it now, let`s get on with it.` Strangely, it was a kind of a sense of calm.

The denigration of Chamberlain came after the end of the war.

Given the debacle of the French collapse and the British scarper (for that`s what they were) maybe Chamberlain knew more about the readiness of both at that time than people think.

Your point about who might Britain have allied itself with against the USSR in other circumstances is a fascinating one, more so since the recent bomber reminders over Brighton. As they say...the enemy of my enemy is my friend. (As we should have remembered when asked to help the Syrian government against those Syrian terrorists)

(On a lighter note...when we got those gas masks in `39 us kids had great fun pressing a playing card up against the nose-piece and nearly smothering our mates to death)



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John Coopey

Mon 2nd Feb 2015 10:34

I believe Churchill wanted greater "buy-in", Tommy, although there may have been a Government of National Unity by then.
Another interesting "what if" if Britain had surrendered is "could Britain eventually have allied itself to the Axis against The USSR and if so what would the USA's position have been?"

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Tommy Carroll

Mon 2nd Feb 2015 10:14

I wonder why the Labour movement were privy to such high level discussions? Could it be that the ruling class would be forced to ditch their " we'll fight them on the beaches" speech in favour of their "Howdy Canada / America / Spain" version?

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John Coopey

Sun 1st Feb 2015 22:57

I have to say, Greg, I have a bit more sympathy for Chamberlain than most. Hindsight weighs him wanting. But he was extremely popular for getting his bit of paper off Hitler and remember the nation was terrified of sending another half million men to their deaths again so soon. What would any of us have done, I wonder?
On another aspect I think I read in one of John O'Farrell's books a piece on whether the Empire had been a force for good or bad. He thought, and I agree, that on balance, if only that the Empire fought the forces of Nazism it was worth it.

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Greg Freeman

Sun 1st Feb 2015 22:18

I racked my brains about Arthur Greenwood, John, and found this quote: "Speak for England!" in the back of my mind.

Here's what Wikipedia says: Greenwood became Deputy Leader of the Labour Party under Clement Attlee. Arguably his most famous moment came on 2 September 1939 when, acting for an absent Attlee, he was called to respond to Neville Chamberlain's ambivalent speech on whether Britain would aid Poland. Preparing to respond, he was interrupted by an angry Conservative backbencher, Leo Amery, who exclaimed "Speak for England, Arthur!"[2]
A flustered Greenwood proceeded to denounce Chamberlain's remarks, to the applause of his colleagues.

The good old Labour party, eh? Knew what was right, on that occasion, at least.

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