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Harry O'Neill

Sun 12th Jun 2016 16:16

I take this as `about` the un-pin-down-ability of poetry n.

A Chesterton example of paradox:

`Take the case of courage. No quality has ever so much addled the brains and tangled the definitions of merely rational sages. Courage is almost a contradiction in terms. It means a strong desire to live taking the form of a readiness to die. 'He that will lose his life, the same shall save it,' is not a piece of mysticism for saints and heroes. It is a piece of everyday advice for sailors or mountaineers. It might be printed in an Alpine guide or a drill book. This paradox is the whole principle of courage; even of quite earthly or brutal courage. A man cut off by the sea may save his life if we will risk it on the precipice.`

Tommy`s piece mentions mathematics, confusion, and
the point at which motion defines all laws. it also talks about a conflation of contradictory assertions. All of which jusifies elPintor fetching in science and mathematics.It is also obviously talking about poetry, with which the thing is connected....I think elPintors comments are valid.

The things being talked about here is the connection of mathematics to the scientific changes which seem to be shaking the former certainties of the old sciences, and a
connection to the traditional - sometimes paradoxical -
indeterminacy of meaning in language.

Sometimes this leads to a sort of wooly, disconnected theory of poetry... Personally, I think a good exercise in
considering this is to read some (good) modern stuff against the interpretive towsing given to Shakespeare`s
sonnet 18 In `Wikipedia sonnet 18`.


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Alexandra Parapadakis

Sun 12th Jun 2016 13:52

Thanks for your interpretation and advice Graham :)

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Robert Mann

Sun 12th Jun 2016 11:35

Ray - you are more than welcome.
Rob

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John Coopey

Sun 12th Jun 2016 09:30

There should be more articles about this.

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John Coopey

Sun 12th Jun 2016 08:57

Fully deserved for "Alas, a lack and three times woe" alone, JH. A little disappointed however that you couldn't find room for "Odds, balls and bodkins".

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Harry Palmer

Sun 12th Jun 2016 08:54

Thanks for your comments Robert. Pleased you liked it. Harry

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Harry Palmer

Sun 12th Jun 2016 08:53

thanks for the like Robert, Harry.

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Preeti Sinha

Sun 12th Jun 2016 08:32

Beautiful

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Preeti Sinha

Sun 12th Jun 2016 08:31

Gorgeous man. Muaah! Will write soooooooon!

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elPintor

Sun 12th Jun 2016 07:47

Hi,

I have been on the site now going on about two months, and have since been reading your work. Being somewhat new around here, I realize I run the risk of, unintentionally, "rubbing someone the wrong way", however, I only respond when something has caught my attention and the piece moves me to do so; even then, only when I like the work and I can come up with words to express my thoughts. I would never try to manipulate anyone through a response to their work. I commented because I enjoyed reading it (over and over) and found the form particularly interesting.

If I said that I understand the piece completely as you intended it, I would be, at the least, exaggerating. That said, the "terminology" you've used intermixed with poetic phrasing (particularly, "Movement never occupies a series of definite spaces, sobbing in and out of existence, but a wail that rises and falls, occupying- deserting, being and not being simultaneously..") grabbed my attention. There are very particular words you've used that suggest "science" and "mathematics" (ie uncertainty, changeover, series of definite spaces), yet you've intermixed them with words like "confusion"..suffice it to say that it shows that you've put a fair amount of thought and work into putting this together.

Some of my reaction is based in memories of the amazement I've felt as a result of taking classes in mathematics. I'm no "beautiful mind", yet I can appreciate the excitement of coming to a sort of revelation through study. So, I hope I understand, yet I can only interpret through the lens of my own perspective.

Hope that answers your questions, Tommy,

elP

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David Cooke

Sun 12th Jun 2016 06:57

Hi Phil Glad you liked my 'Cogs'. I see we're both 1953ers!

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Tommy Carroll

Sun 12th Jun 2016 02:21

Ouch!

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Tommy Carroll

Sun 12th Jun 2016 02:17

elp- Hi, having given some thought to your response, and considerable effort into the piece, I have to wonder from whence your conclusions arrive. Have and when have you- if ever- read other work of mine? or, am I experiencing an Hemorrhagic interlude? Not wishing to appear (oh dear) flippant nor drunk, I wonder am I experiencing clever manipulation? I say this as I am a very open yet frivolous chap. I do enjoy your analysis, and, wonder (once again) if you understand the piece or are you just playing with gramma? Anyway you have taken some considerable effort, and I have, as already stated, enjoyed your response. I do consider it (your response) interesting. Yours in pergatude Tommy

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kimafia Jones

Sun 12th Jun 2016 00:05

I love that you Loved it.......Thanks Jade

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Dave Morgan

Sat 11th Jun 2016 22:59

Thank you both. I just tried to let the words speak for themselves.

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elPintor

Sat 11th Jun 2016 22:16

Thanks a bunch, Jade..your comment's much appreciated.

elP

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raypool

Sat 11th Jun 2016 20:23

Cheers Rob, appreciate it.

Thanks Stu. Great places these derelict areas for the odd poem ! Glad you liked it.

Ray

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Robert Mann

Sat 11th Jun 2016 19:55

Harry - I like this piece for a number of reasons. Come the revolution and the rich on funeral pyres the 'revolutionaries' must resist the temptation of hoarding the repatriated gold. If not, they become the despised rich and the revolution becomes a 'merry-go-round'. I like that you have realised this, and the repetition of the line 'Burn the rich' could be seen to emphasise the point - Along with the closing stanza. Nicely written sir!
Rob

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Laura Taylor

Sat 11th Jun 2016 19:26

A huge Thank You to Dave - I am beyond chuffed that I can finally put all of this out into the world. It's massive fun doing the ranty stuff, but I've been wanting folk to know about the other stuff for ages now. Cheers!

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JM.Cole

Sat 11th Jun 2016 19:25

Great rhyme scheme, loved the audio:)

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Laura Taylor

Sat 11th Jun 2016 19:24

Julian, thank you so much for this blinding review, and for coming to the launch. It was a great moment when I saw your face :D

And Harry - ace to see you too! Thanks so much for coming and buying a copy. 'Robust' :D Well that's one way of putting it haha :D

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Stu Buck

Sat 11th Jun 2016 19:16

thanks all. back to normal with this one!

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Stu Buck

Sat 11th Jun 2016 19:15

cheers both, just a bit of fun inspired by something called an anti-slam, where people stand up and read the worst poem (cheesy, punny etc) they can.

im reading it monday night so i shall report on how it goes!

if anyone wants proof of how wonderful anti-slams are, go to the link below and enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VANCLiH5ifs

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Chrissy Reeves

Sat 11th Jun 2016 19:03

Thanks for reading my poem. Glad you liked it. Maybe I should get into writing Haikus, they seem short. Chrissy x

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Chrissy Reeves

Sat 11th Jun 2016 18:59

Thanks David for reading my words. Seducer or Seduced? I'll have to think about that one. Chrissy x

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Robert Mann

Sat 11th Jun 2016 18:39

Phil - time is a constrict invented by man, but has become the governor to whom we have all become slaves. How much 'freedom' would we have without these confines which shackle us to the clock? Nice piece.
Rob

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Robert Mann

Sat 11th Jun 2016 17:46

Chrissy - I can promise you plenty of short ones! xx Liked this.
Rob

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david coulthard

Sat 11th Jun 2016 17:42


Having read your poems do you want to be the seducer
or the seduced

I hate to think of you sitting there completely bored

Although I know the feeling well enough

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Miss Alexandra Fiona Swarbrick

Sat 11th Jun 2016 16:39

Hello Mrs.
Just to say thank you for your kind words on Thursday.
For all the time you have given me.
Good luck with everything.
I'm still too nervous to put a profile up on here, some sad memories for me.
See you whenever.
love me :) x
Ps forgot my password and had changed email so had to make a new one with the full name !

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Lynn Dye

Sat 11th Jun 2016 16:17

So much truth here, David. Well written, I love it.

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M.C. Newberry

Sat 11th Jun 2016 15:58

Thanks, gents.
I wish I could add the name of the author whose lines I
recite to myself at any given opportunity. They take me
to a panorama of the high seas and a lone square rigger
slicing its graceful way through uncertain weather near
the bottom of the world. The picture is always vivid in my mind.

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M.C. Newberry

Sat 11th Jun 2016 15:38

How to imagine a life spent in a "well-watered" goldfish
bowl, with every second of life scrutinised and judged?
Scary and surely likely to induce problems for anyone
less used from childhood to the duties and the demands.
There can be no one who could ever hope do it better.
What a trouper - blessed with that magical smile!
Here's a health unto Her Majesty.

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Harry O'Neill

Sat 11th Jun 2016 15:28

Dave,
A fair and honest representation of the types of poems in Laura`s collection. (with enlightening specimens of the originals)

I like your comment that Laura has a much wider emotional range that tub thumping anger, and that she repays re- reading.

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raypool

Sat 11th Jun 2016 15:05

If you follow this rhetoric with the wonderful quantitive easing to bail out the banks and flood the markets with money, you have a recipe for investing in London properties creating unreachable ghettoes in our streets.

A fine poem, David.

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raypool

Sat 11th Jun 2016 14:45

Almost a touch of Frankenstein in this Stu. Wonderful use of the imagination , rolling away with itself. Seems to cover most foul promises and hopes offered by the elected whoever they are.

The usual power is in there!

Ray

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Robert Mann

Sat 11th Jun 2016 14:41

Stu - this is like the Bard on acid. Not my favourite of your pieces, as I found it a bit gimmicky, but I can still appreciate the skill involved. Cheers.
Rob

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Robert Mann

Sat 11th Jun 2016 14:24

Stu - an alternative 'theory of life'. Does Hawking know how powerful his opponent is? I doubt it. I find the piece exciting, twisted, beautiful and disturbing at the same time. Nice one Stu.
Rob

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Harry O'Neill

Sat 11th Jun 2016 14:19

Julian,
Very good account of what was a quite robust launch evening.

I like that alliteration in the second paragraph...and the way you quote from the genitalial `Environmental Intercourse, (which - being from the personna of the fracker - manages somehow to also criticise a masculinely brutal kind of rape.)

It was great to actually meet you, a modern facilitator of
poetry, at last. (especially just around the corner from the old O`Connors Liverpool Scene hangout)

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Lynn Dye

Sat 11th Jun 2016 13:51

Oops, sorry to spoil it, Tommy, ha ha ha.

I'll just pretend next time ;~)

Thanks for comment, appreciated. x

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Tommy Carroll

Sat 11th Jun 2016 13:46

GERRRRRRRROUT! - hang on your "old man"? You have a spouse? :~( (he walks away with hands in pockets-and shouts over his shoulder " I never liked it anyway)...

;~))

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Lynn Dye

Sat 11th Jun 2016 13:30

Rob - I think it may have been a fictional character in the book I was reading, but then being happily married, perhaps it was my old man, ha ha. Or perhaps I have too vivid an imagination!!
Thank you for compliment. xx

Jemima - thanks for the laugh and the mention of yoghurt - well, why not, I say!

Thanks also to R and Chrissy for liking x

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Lynn Dye

Sat 11th Jun 2016 13:04

Good one indeed. I can definitely connect with this poem, Stu. Well done.

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Jade Kelly

Sat 11th Jun 2016 13:01

This is wonderfully written

- Jade

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Jade Kelly

Sat 11th Jun 2016 13:00

I like this poem

- Jade

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Stu Buck

Sat 11th Jun 2016 12:51

thats gorgeous ray

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Stu Buck

Sat 11th Jun 2016 12:51

Cresting the rise I came upon brickworks

gashes of red powdered spent force

cascades of guts pushed back

to a stubbled hill

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Stu Buck

Sat 11th Jun 2016 12:50

this is amazing. splinters building bows of ships. wow.

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Jade Kelly

Sat 11th Jun 2016 12:45

You should have more confidence, your poem is beautiful!

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Jade Kelly

Sat 11th Jun 2016 12:44

I'm so glad that one of my poems became close to your heart, that's the nicest comment, thankyou!

Take care

- Jade

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Jade Kelly

Sat 11th Jun 2016 12:41

Thankyou so much for your comment on 'a boys pride'

I'm glad you agreed with some of my points and humor is not my forte, so I'm really grateful you thought it worked well.

Take care!

- Jade

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