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Lynn Dye

Sun 3rd Jun 2012 19:31

Very moving and well written, Ian.

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John Coopey

Sun 3rd Jun 2012 15:54

Are you on liz's barge?

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John Coopey

Sun 3rd Jun 2012 15:45

Reminded me of 2 of betjeman's - pershore station and remorse. Top quality again, ian.

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Harry O'Neill

Sun 3rd Jun 2012 14:21

Alanna,
Nice, spare, use of unfamiliar place-names and fauna and the windier side of Barbados to pay tribute to a person,

It`s a good contrast with your -equally spare -
and earlier `Stunned` which is impressively intimate (and which I somehow missed)

Keep `em comin`

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darren thomas

Sun 3rd Jun 2012 13:31

title and first few lines sucked me right in.

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Karen Robinson

Sun 3rd Jun 2012 11:21

Buy a map. You may have to travel!

Good luck finding a new one, though with only one filling perhaps you won't need to. You obviously have strong teeth. Or you are very young!!

Thank you for the welcome.

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Ray Miller

Sun 3rd Jun 2012 10:01

Thanks Isobel.No, "you" is correct. She is extraordinary, I'm just a stupid twat who got lucky.

Thanks Steve. Yeah, but is there a better word than forgery that rhymes with extraordinary?
I saw the 2nd half of the JCC programme. I think I'll try and watch the whole thing on iplayer. I enjoy his stuff better when he slows down a bit - the way he performs Beasley Street these days is a travesty.

Thanks Harry. Bairns as peacemakers - yes, it does sound unlikely. I mean in the sense that couples are less likely to part if there are children to consider."Forgery" is ambivalent, I suppose, but there's a nod at "reproduced" in the first line.

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Ian gant

Sun 3rd Jun 2012 09:33

Within some italian families it was still the tradition to place a coin in the mouth of a deceased relative to pay the ferryman who took their soul from this world to that other dark place.Today here in Yorkshire it rains heavily and it took me back to that other June day when much loved my Mother died.ICG

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Julian (Admin)

Sun 3rd Jun 2012 08:13

I missed this first time round, Alanna. It is wonderfully evocative and atmospheric. I agree, change it not. As interesting as Alan's ideas are, that would be a different poem.
Long time no see.

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M.C. Newberry

Sat 2nd Jun 2012 19:48

Hello Win - it seems that sporting poetry is something of a Cinderella interest but some of those written over the years are worth finding. I have a book devoted to the genre - once owned by an elder sister who made a gift of it to me some years ago. Some of the older fox hunting poems would make today's PC advocates writhe in exquisite agony now that the fox is a Disney demi-god in modern sensibilities. The realities of the ravages of a hen-house are easily ignored by the city dweller.
Cheers...MC

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Alanna

Sat 2nd Jun 2012 17:50

Thank you all for your comments, gave me lots to think and reflect on..I'm feeling that I may leave it in its current state - the poem is pretty much true to the flow of thoughts I had on the bus, and there is something interesting about that.
Thanks again.

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Harry O'Neill

Sat 2nd Jun 2012 14:59

Ray,
My fault (with this one) for being slow to `get` it - the clues are all there and they all appertain to the subject - it`s got a nice `whole` feel to it.

I`m fascinated by line three ( bairns as peacemakers?) Your `extraordinary` - for me -hints at thanks and admiration and the `forgery` (given the `we foster`) as a joke.

It`s all a case of aptly off-kilter words saying things in a thought provoking way, as Aristotle said (all right he was Greek)

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John Aikman

Sat 2nd Jun 2012 13:27

Superb interview. Excellent set of questions. I am somewhat reeling from being told by my erstwhile daughter in law, who is a second year English undergraduate and wannabe teacher, that she 'hates' poetry and has, so far managed to avoid it in her undergraduate studies.

Like, blimey, how does that happen?

Anyway, thanks for a fab read.

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Isobel

Sat 2nd Jun 2012 11:15

What a hard act to follow...

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Sat 2nd Jun 2012 10:26

Hypnotically lovely!
Happy blue cruising!.xx

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Julian (Admin)

Sat 2nd Jun 2012 09:37

Self-revelatory villain 'ell? It will never stand up in court. It's not only hard rain that's gonna fall. I wrote about this subject for one of the Sunday papers: Exhibitionism, the pull-out supplement.

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Isobel

Sat 2nd Jun 2012 09:16

I'd be tempted to change the 'you' to 'us' in the penultimate line.

Children are a kind of cement. I imagine it must be hard when they've all flown to still find that momentum - most of us don't get that far :) I like the subtle undertones in this.

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Isobel

Sat 2nd Jun 2012 08:47

:O I'm hoping this isn't autobiographical - my thoughts are with you...

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Antony Owen

Fri 1st Jun 2012 23:22

Apologies for the delay Cynthia I've been having some bad headaches from some meds. Don't worry about the crit, you're right, it was a rush of blood and passion upon reading the one you did for Fatima. I would like to send you a copy of The Dreaded Boy anyway so please email me an address to send it to you at caducus2004@yahoo.com

Enjoy the w/e

Ant
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Yvonne Brunton

Fri 1st Jun 2012 23:03

Your parodies are obviously not a 'flash'in the pan. You've done it again!! great fun teehee.XX

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Isobel

Fri 1st Jun 2012 21:48

Oo er - I've come over all patriotic - I've a mind to go and buy myself a union Jack mini dress, a la Gerry Halliwell... or maybe I've had to much to drink :) A good antidote to all the knockers, MC. All the kids, in all the schools have a had a really lovely day today. There isn't much that unites us nowadays - it's nice to celebrate something that does!

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winston plowes

Fri 1st Jun 2012 20:45

Hi MC, thx for the comments. I'm afraid I am too young to remember Frank "Typhoon" Tyson but the Hampshire burr of John Arlott is timeles and thankfully lives on in the TMS link I posted in the blog comments. Have a listen and you will hear the lines of the found poem spoken by the master. Oh and do see if you can post up your Compton/Richie Benaud piece. Win

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Julian (Admin)

Fri 1st Jun 2012 15:27

And all who sail in her.

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Lynn Dye

Fri 1st Jun 2012 15:07

Hi Larisa, I like this poem, and so glad that you are recovering, and hope you continue to do so. xx

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Lynn Dye

Fri 1st Jun 2012 15:02

Good tribute, MC, well done.

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Julian (Admin)

Fri 1st Jun 2012 11:58

Rhythm is such a valuable constituent of good poetry, even blank or free verse, in my view. I sometimes find myself listening to open-mic poets reading their own work who don't bring out the rhythm that I can hear in their work. It's as if they don't hear it. Rhythm helps the listener to hear and anticipate. Vital in oral poetry, as most folks' aural memory is not strong, so listeners are always a few syllables behind the reader/performer. I have no idea why, but I am convinced that rhythm helps. I do think that rap and similar stuff works with youngsters for that reason.

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Tommy Carroll

Fri 1st Jun 2012 01:47

@Harry: I like to play with words, I bend them, I twist them, I play with them as a child would play with a fly in a glass jar - pulling off a wing or two.
PURPOSE is used ironically and is meant as a consequence of the existence of the thing itself (there is no purpose)
KINK is the emergence of humanity, that as of yet is a solitary event. This event is the 'kink' in the time-line.
I agree with you on BILLION TRILLION as awkward, I thought so even as I wrote it, but used it to remind me of the need for a replacement.

@Graham: Thanks- I think therefore I thank.

@Yvonne: Thanks, but I'm not complaining. :o)

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Tommy Carroll

Fri 1st Jun 2012 01:44

@Harry: I like to play with words, I bend them, I twist them, I play with them as a child would play with a fly in a glass jar - pulling off a wing or two.
PURPOSE is used ironically and is meant as a consequence of the existence of the thing itself (there is no purpose)
KINK is the emergence of humanity, that as of yet is a solitary event. This event is the 'kink' in the time-line.
I agree with you on BILLION TRILLION as awkward, I thought so even as I wrote it, but used it to remind me of the need for a replacement.

@Graham: Thanks- I think therefore I thank.

@Yvonne: Thanks, but I'm not complaining. :o)

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Tommy Carroll

Fri 1st Jun 2012 01:21

Dentistry...now there's a thought. Welcome to W O L Karen. Tommy
PS I have been told today that my Dentist's practice is to close at end of June- any advice?
PPS I have only one filling.

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John Coopey

Thu 31st May 2012 23:46

Hi Larisa
Very pictorial.
You set yourself a high goal in writing in a foreign language. Keep writing - You are far more successful at writing in english than we would ever be trying to write in Ukrainian.
Good luck to your country in the forthcoming Euro Football Championships and I hope you continue to recover.

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John Coopey

Thu 31st May 2012 23:14

An antidote to the sneering.
The knighthood's in the post.

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Harry O'Neill

Thu 31st May 2012 22:25


Tommy,
Agree that it`s a fine first stanza.

`Purpose` takes for granted an end game and therefore a direction (and a director?) And a `kink` - even in a continuum - is a discrete event.

The awe inspiring `across eternity` `billion trillion` and `nano second` is out of kilter
with the intentionality of `purpose`.

And Yvonne,
Don`t be so humble! Google is harvesting millions of presences all over the world, (together with their sales potential) and that technology has only just started. Rest assured that `creation` won`t have any registration problems.

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Tommy Carroll

Thu 31st May 2012 20:48

broom broom!

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Yvonne Brunton

Thu 31st May 2012 20:11

Hi John.
yes, my knickers know what you mean about elastic.

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M.C. Newberry

Thu 31st May 2012 18:47

When I was a boy in the 50s I was the proud owner of the Picture Post (remember it?) photobook of the tests in Australia when Frank "Typhoon" Tyson struck fear into their batsmen. These lines remind me of those halcyon days of this essentially English sport when the Hampshire burr of John Arlott told us all was well with the world. Happy days. I have a few lines I wrote in praise of Denis Compton/Richie Benaud. I must post them some day.

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M.C. Newberry

Thu 31st May 2012 18:29

Hey - was this timed to coincide with Bob Dylan getting his Presidential Medal of Freedom? He could have sung your version to Obama and proved to his fans that he was still the anti-establishment icon he used to be as Obama snatched the medal back! :-) Another inspired piece from a master mickey-taker.

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John Coopey

Thu 31st May 2012 17:23

Hello Yvonne. Glad you liked my twangy thing. Unfortunately the ageing process seem to have perished the elastic these days.

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John Coopey

Thu 31st May 2012 17:18

Hello MC. Thankyou for your comments on The Three Hulats and The Cart Belongs to Paddy.
A hulat is, rather disappointingly, a young owl; but I prefer the menace of interpretation of not knowing!

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John Coopey

Thu 31st May 2012 17:14

Thanks for your comment on The Three Hulats, Martin. A hulat, rather disappointingly, is a young owl.

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Isobel

Thu 31st May 2012 15:41

Thank you all.

Great point Harry. It's not all about rhyme - perhaps rythm is the thing I talk about when I speak of flow? Certain combinations of words flow, whether or not they rhyme. Others clunk click like a Jimmy Saville seatbelt advert. I think, in all honesty, that the future does belong to free verse. The hard thing is finding the formula for good free verse - so much of it is by feel.

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Graham Sherwood

Thu 31st May 2012 15:12

Great first verse Tommy. A thinker!

Regards, Graham

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Graham Sherwood

Thu 31st May 2012 14:58

Thanks for the feedback Greg. A bit disturbing to write too. Graham

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Graham Sherwood

Thu 31st May 2012 14:57

Yvonne, many thanks for your kind feedback on my last couple of poems. It is very much appreciated.

Regards,

Graham

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Graham Sherwood

Thu 31st May 2012 14:53

Isobel, there it had to be you, making me do something that I hardly ever do.
I have qualified the last line as you have suggested (but don't tell anyone, I don't want to be asked to do this too often).

Seriously, thank you very much for the very generous words. It was a very worrying piece to write.

Best regards,

Graham

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Graham Sherwood

Thu 31st May 2012 14:41

You've done it again Mr Coopey. Absolutely stunning. I think you should send it to Bob. Don't let's talk about footie eh? Cruel world.

Good to see the work again.

Regards,

Graham

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Harry O'Neill

Thu 31st May 2012 13:49


Good interview Isobel,
To take from it the points about teaching kids the `classical` poets when they are immersed in the modern plethora of sound and visual images:

I sometimes wonder if it might be possible to explain the rhythm and drum constituents of some of the modern popular tunes and relate them to the underlying sounds of some of the old poems. I think in this way the kids might better get the `feel` of what a poems about.

For me the problem seems to be not so much the `chopped up prose` as the lack of rhythm in a lot of it (not rhyme). This seem a shame, as so often what I call the `story` of the poem is undermined.

We have reached the end of a long `shaking up`
process in poetry and - for the sake of general communicability - we should be looking for some more popularly understandable forms of verse.

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Cate Greenlees

Thu 31st May 2012 12:18

A really interesting read Isobel, and one I can very much relate to after having taught poetry in schools for many years regardless of national curriculum. I covered all forms of poetry from ballads to Shakespeare, and being Performing Arts trained, often used it as stimulus for drama, dance and music, and the children loved it!
I would say at the end of the day it all comes down to the teacher. If he/she has a love of language in all its forms, and a commitment to pass this love on... then it will happen. If not, then the poor little mites may only come across it as a perfunctory sop to the system, or when a guest speaker of quality such as Kenneth comes into the school.
I can honestly say some of my best memories are the ones of tough Skelmersdale children coming into my classroom punching the air saying " Oh yes! It`s poetry today!"
Cate xx

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Larisa Rzhepishevska

Thu 31st May 2012 06:12

Thank you so much my dear friends for your comments, for your advice and for your help. Much appreciated.
With warmest wishes, Larisa

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Yvonne Brunton

Thu 31st May 2012 00:21

yes you are right. Of what importance are we in the great scheme of things? How can creation even register our presence within its own timescale?

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Yvonne Brunton

Thu 31st May 2012 00:17

I've just read your comment in the Discussion thread. Wow, that was some sentence. I thought I could rattle on a bit without dipping into my full stop tin but that was pretty good. I am, however, dismayed by the thought of a technical god causing you some erectile distress although this is tempered by the somewhat cheering image of you racing, full throttle, into an unknown landscape in an open-top roadster, scarf rippling in a macho Dick Dastardly meets Isadora Duncan sort of way (not that I am envisaging it getting caught in the wheel)that signals a devil-may-care insouciance about what may lie over the horizon. XX

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