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Tue 20th Mar 2018 08:07
Exactly. So why does the poem go on about the man's charitable work? Why make it relevant then deny that it is?
It clearly implies that charitable work for women gives a man a free pass to be angry when a woman challenges something that he says.
Comment is about I know this man, right (blog)
Original item by Colin Hill
Tue 20th Mar 2018 08:01
Comment is about Broken Bottles (blog)
Original item by Brooke E Addison
Tue 20th Mar 2018 07:24
Thanks David and Keith for your appreciation.
Comment is about On The Estate (blog)
Original item by Brian Maryon
Tue 20th Mar 2018 07:21
THIS POEM WILL SELF-DESTRUCT AT 14.00 HOURS
Alem Hailu G/Kristos
Tue 20th Mar 2018 06:10
Thx for appreciating it.
Comment is about Nocturne/Julia Caroline/Translation in Amharic/Alem Hailu/በምሽት (blog)
Original item by Alem Hailu G/Kristos
Brooke E Addison
Tue 20th Mar 2018 04:55
amazing 10/10. whoever wrote this is a freaking pro
Tue 20th Mar 2018 04:12
According to some of the more esoteric channelists' channelling channels (try saying that when you're tipsy!) we, on the good Spaceship Earth, are heading towards the Galactic Centre. This means we are soon to be transformed into etheric beings bathed in our own light, chatting away with unicorns, the angelic realm, and ultra-dimensionals. Remember where you read it first Col!
See you all there!
Comment is about Two by Two (blog)
Tue 20th Mar 2018 04:01
Comment is about Brooke E Addison (poet profile)
Tue 20th Mar 2018 02:57
Butterflys needs to land, need cocoons and are stronger in groups..
Comment is about butterfly (blog)
Original item by Lilly Love
Tue 20th Mar 2018 01:31
Comment is about A Museum of You (blog)
Original item by Anya
Mon 19th Mar 2018 23:18
What a great poem!!! Love and enjoyed every bit of it! Thank you. Anya x
Comment is about St Matthew and the Beatles (blog)
Original item by Alex W
Mon 19th Mar 2018 23:11
I really enjoyed this poem. Very interesting concept. Thank you for posting. Anya x
Comment is about Beauty-Form-Vision (blog)
Original item by Graham Sherwood
Mon 19th Mar 2018 23:01
Thank you so much for liking my poem “Wait a minute”. Much appreciated! Anya x
Comment is about Brian Maryon (poet profile)
Mon 19th Mar 2018 22:59
Thank you very much!!! Makes me happy to hear that ! Anya x
Comment is about Wait a minute (blog)
Mon 19th Mar 2018 22:14
Comment is about Martin Elder (poet profile)
Original item by Martin Elder
Mon 19th Mar 2018 22:10
Early bird catches the worm
like an early hot summer sunrise
as it begins to burn
my mind on fire
inspiration my desire
not to destroy or conquer
not to tear apart nature
on the theme of matter.
Comment is about Foolishness (blog)
Original item by Wordsmith
John F Keane
Mon 19th Mar 2018 21:52
The April theme is 'Threads'
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Original item by Stockport WoL
Mon 19th Mar 2018 20:45
I think the lens is firmly on me at the moment Nicola. Thanks for reading. Colin.
Mon 19th Mar 2018 20:42
it's about the manner in which we communicate our message or beliefs, the way we choose to communicate them and to who we communicate them to.
working for a charity does not automatically make a person good or negate them from criticism. There have been plenty of examples highlighted recently in the media with regard to abuse within the overseas aid sector.
Mon 19th Mar 2018 20:28
Love this but it's depressing x
Comment is about Elbow Yard (blog)
Original item by Ian Whiteley
Mon 19th Mar 2018 20:23
So observatory but like your looking at life through a lens.....
Mon 19th Mar 2018 20:21
So, to summarise the message of this poem: Bloke does good things for charity, therefore is never ever to be criticised, especially not by a gobby female.
Mon 19th Mar 2018 20:20
A Angel or an angel, beautiful anyway, x
Comment is about The kissing poems 13 (blog)
Original item by david patrick simon
Mon 19th Mar 2018 19:09
Mon 19th Mar 2018 19:05
they're in the 'anyone else we might have forgotten' category Brian. Blimey, you'll be wanting a tennis court next..!
Mon 19th Mar 2018 18:47
Blimey Keith, am I really all that? I thought I just scribbled a few social observaions! Lol
Comment is about The World Day of Poetry (blog)
Original item by keith jeffries
Mon 19th Mar 2018 18:39
I notice you don't include social tennis players Colin. Who can I complain to?
Mon 19th Mar 2018 18:26
Artur, beautiful words full of expectancy. Thank you. Keith
Comment is about Being Naive (blog)
Original item by Artur Hulboj
Mon 19th Mar 2018 17:55
Nick, fantastic. Thanks. Keith
Comment is about Myths and Wishful Thinking. (blog)
Original item by Nick
Mon 19th Mar 2018 17:48
Nice one 😃 Poignant and a witty parody.
Comment is about For Timmy (blog)
Original item by jennifer Malden
Mon 19th Mar 2018 17:36
I love this poem 😃
Mon 19th Mar 2018 16:37
I love all these thee's and thou's...takes my back to the 17th century
Mon 19th Mar 2018 16:08
Hello everyone! - my apologies, I won't be there this evening - still battling with the remainder of that flipping chest infection.....have a great evening....and please would you let me know the theme for next time?........thanks, Dorinda x
Mon 19th Mar 2018 15:05
I'm afraid it is a very frequent occurrence on WOL that pieces of work can be taken personally and thus engender much debate/flack/unpleasantness, which completely swamp the original piece. It happens also in the discussion section. Like Chinese whispers, the original message is distorted within five or six repetitions.
Count for yourself how often a poem receives heartfelt feedback under the assumption that it is autobiographical only to find out that it was indeed fiction.
We should all be capable of taking the odd swing to the chin and get on with life. We'd be pretty shallow if we couldn't
Mon 19th Mar 2018 14:53
The poem was not a form of shaking hands and making up and I make no apology for writing and posting it. However my previous comment was. And I don't think I ever said 'I' was 'corrected'?
I was not trying to silence you Laura when I suggested we move on from this debate. I appreciate the position you are arguing from and yes I do respect it. But my poem was written from a very different viewpoint - one of general observation and personal experience and to an extent ties in with the themes I have been exploring and writing about recently. As others have too.
I could have written this poem very differently by omitting the anger or the phrase 'zero tolerant leftie feminist' or the word 'corrected'. Or perhaps preferably for some readers, not written and posted it all. Sanitising subject matter can have the effect of diluting a poem's meaning and the writer's intent. If we constantly write that way we risk losing the potency and immediacy of our words whether or not as readers we like or agree with the message or sentiments.
Mon 19th Mar 2018 13:15
Please please please
read this out
tonight at the Art Gallery
Your poem has everything in it to describe last weekend
Comment is about Resurrected (blog)
Original item by Maggie Waker
Mon 19th Mar 2018 13:14
It’s quite difficult, nay, impossible, to believe that this poem is a form of shaking hands and making up. I’ve certainly felt nothing coming from you that even resembles reconciliation. You clearly knew that I was going to challenge it. As I have already mentioned, I cannot think of anyone else who the ‘zero tolerance leftie feminist’ might be. Saying it has been simmering for some time doesn’t cut the mustard I’m afraid, not with such a bald reference as that.
There are very good reasons why I am forced to continue to call myself a feminist. This poem and your reactions to my defences of myself are a perfect demonstration of one of those reasons. You might want to examine the reasons why you felt so much anger at being 'corrected' that it provoked this piece. I still can't work out exactly where you were 'corrected', mind.
It’s difficult to maintain respect for people who make thinly-veiled digs and then pretend they didn’t actually say that. Which of my views DO you respect, because I see no evidence of that at all?
Mon 19th Mar 2018 12:59
New meeting date only for this month
back to normal for April!
The theme for tonight will be to encourage a new generation of poets on - - -
World Poetry Day Wednesday 21st March
Three Stockport schools will be coming to the Art Gallery to celebrate with their own selection of poetry
1PM - 3PM
We have been asked to help set up a workshop and give a short reading on the day.
Comment is about Write Out Loud at Stockport art gallery tonight (article)
Original item by Greg Freeman
Mon 19th Mar 2018 12:37
As I said in my comments below, this poem has been simmering for some time. Our recent debate may have been the catalyst for writing it but it was not meant either as an attack on you or on any one person in particular.
Yes, us poets do battle it out on occasion through our poetry. But then isn't poetry the medium through which we choose to express our feelings and opinions?
We should be able to walk away from such sparring matches having shaken hands and with continued respect for each other's views. That is certainly my position in this case Laura. I do respect your views but it's probably best we move on from this subject. As Pat said, it's become a bit tense around here. A group hug is definitely in order.
All the best,
Mon 19th Mar 2018 11:35
Well done, Alex. All you need is a love of poetry, like yours.
Mon 19th Mar 2018 11:32
Out of interest, exactly how did the 'zero tolerance leftie feminist' 'correct' the 'good man'?
Mon 19th Mar 2018 11:12
yes I do, thank you Laura. I will most likely remove this poem too, when I choose. Thank you for your contribution.
Mon 19th Mar 2018 10:54
Thank you for a poem which is an accurate cameo of a certain section of society. It is well written, indeed eloquent in its portrayal of those whose lives are sad but who struggle to find relevance to their existence. I concur with David that the last line really says it all. Thank you again.
Mon 19th Mar 2018 10:50
Pretty pointed poem, I'd say. Not much in the way of trying to camouflage who is being discussed in here. I can't think of any other 'leftie feminists' who spring immediately to mind. I note that the other poem has been removed. Still, that's how we poets battle it out eh, through poetry? Feel better now, Colin?
Mon 19th Mar 2018 08:49
David, your comment made me laugh and cry in equal measure! Thank you so much. I'm glad we're still talking, despite our bumper car friendship - often circling around each other, occasionally having head-on collisions before backing off and giving each other space again. I've had a few steering wheel bashing moments too over the past few years.
Our individual lives can be complicated enough at times. Add to that the sometimes complicated lives of people we have never met plus a hefty dollop of opinionated poetry and WoL can be like walking through a firework factory with a flame thrower at times. The resulting explosions can be painful but ultimately valuable and rewarding too.
We are also living through some extraordinary times with so many important issues seeming to be coming to a head all at the same time. It's ironic though, that while the people of this world expend so much of their time and energy debating the long lists of global problems, they might just fail to notice the ice caps have melted and they have talked themselves into oblivion. The human condition eh? We will never run out of things to argue about as long as we can keep our heads above the water. Maybe it's time to build an ark?
Thanks again David. Col.
Mon 19th Mar 2018 07:36
Political alignment when imposed is not political alignment, it is political auto-correction, neither is it particularly democratic, of course the term "Politically Correct" was coined during the Soviet experiment into Communism, ensuring everyone knew exactly what the party line was.
We would do well to remember just where the term was born and why.
PS, I am not anti-europe, far from it. I am against what the EU has become a mis-governed, mis-managed institutional monster that is barely democratic in any means at all, in real terms.
Sorry the title reference's our nations own complicity in money laundering, tax havens etc. I do agree, but if anyone believes the EU is less corrupt than the UK, well how much belief can be suspended and for how long? go and take a walk around the institutions of the EU in Brux and Strasbourg, go see where your money is going. The EU is led by a federation of small time gangsters who got rich while people looked the other way.
Apologies, I'll stop now.
Comment is about we'll hang your dirty money on our washing line, if you've any filthy lucre bring it here (blog)
Original item by ken eaton-dykes
Mon 19th Mar 2018 07:32
Ken Again, negativity. Why assume all these adverse things will happen? As far as unity goes, we are closer to and more influenced by the U.S. and still will be trade deal or no trade deal.
Mon 19th Mar 2018 06:59
I know this guy, known him for a few years now but never met him. I had some misunderstanding with him a few times but knew deep down he was/is a good man. I allowed him to disagree with me and maybe on occasion to be angry with me.
Sometimes he pissed me off so much that I punched the wall and screamed when I was driving my car, hated myself for getting drawn in for getting angry, wondered why I gave a fuck.
Then this guy and me quietly mediated and moved on, yes its worth carrying on, in the face of all frustrations and immovable objects, carry the fuck on and overcome ourselves, its the only way we might ever overcome the wrong we see.
Much love, and well done for posting this. Anger is an energy! we can use it.
Mon 19th Mar 2018 04:45
Lovely, Cynthia. You had me right there in the deep waters with you, shouting “don’t panic!” 😃
Comment is about The Dive (blog)
Original item by Cynthia Buell Thomas
Mon 19th Mar 2018 03:31
Appreciate the kind words, and I enjoyed your poetry, so it was a good day.
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