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David Franks

Tue 4th Jan 2011 13:06

Enjoyed your poetry samples, Louise.

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Isobel

Tue 4th Jan 2011 12:05

I like the way you have made so much of one of those curious moments that happen ever so often. Also like the contrast of the beautiful deer and the old woman - both seeking freedom in their very disparate ways.

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Mark Mr T Thompson

Tue 4th Jan 2011 10:45

Hi Laura, thanks for reading this.

Yes my mother IS a radical feminist, her definition not yours so I guess she can own that. Without the radicals in any area there is no middle ground, no acceptance of Dr King without Malcolm, so while I agree media mis-representations warp opinion, the radical is in my opinion vital. If it wasn't for people like my mother, you yourself would be considered by others as a radical, even if you didn't consider yourself one!

Which are the generalisations that you feel are outdated or excessive? Can you explain why?

Hard to respond to such generalised comment, you guys haven't even got the excuse of attempting to be lyrical! ;)

This is after all a poem not a theoretical lecture, so the term poetic licence may apply.

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Greg Freeman

Tue 4th Jan 2011 10:38

Enjoyed the sentiments and pace of this, Dave. Thought maybe the trees could be something other than "lovely"?

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Laura Taylor

Tue 4th Jan 2011 10:11

This leaves me bemused. As mentioned, it is one almighty set of generalisations, many of which I disagree with, and many of which are outdated.

Your mother is a RADICAL feminist? Even now? Whilst it was a hugely important movement, and had some excellent points, feminism moved on a heck of a lot since it was first proposed as a theory. I find it way too separatist and damaging, ultimately. It's my belief, based on experience, that too many young women these days reject feminism/ists on account of radical feminism, as that is the only form of feminism ever represented by our lovely media.

There's some interesting points in here, but to me, it's just way too outdated and generalising to be making any kind of a statement.

I am a feminist by the way, but don't adhere to any one theory - my beliefs are taken from those parts of Socialist, Existentialist, and Postmodern feminism that I identify with. Certainly not anything that is separatist and limiting.

Apologies if this comes across as negative btw, but you did welcome debate.


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kath hewitt

Tue 4th Jan 2011 09:33

Thanks for taking the time to read and comment, much appreciated :-)

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kath hewitt

Tue 4th Jan 2011 09:33

Thanks for taking the time to read and comment, much appreciated :-)

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Philipos

Tue 4th Jan 2011 08:58

Thank you Dave - I think you are spot on with the assessment - much obliged for the encouragement

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Dave Bradley

Tue 4th Jan 2011 08:39

Enjoyed this, Ian. My childhood was a little later, but there were many echoes in it of what you so well describe, and reading this has stirred it up.

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Jeff Dawson

Tue 4th Jan 2011 07:25

Hi Isobel, thanx for comment, am doin poetry to music with Andy N, you never know might try this!

Look forward to seeing you thurs @ Guitar n Verse! Jeff X

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Dave Bradley

Mon 3rd Jan 2011 23:42

Provokes a strong feeling of being trapped. Powerful one, Kath

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Isobel

Mon 3rd Jan 2011 23:38

Well I'm glad to hear it isn't based on true life Ray - the wife is spared the cricket bat for the time being...

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Isobel

Mon 3rd Jan 2011 23:33

No probs - your poem inspired me in part to write a poem just. It's pretty rough so I'm not sure if it'll ever get finished or make it on here - like most of my stuff!

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Jeff Dawson

Mon 3rd Jan 2011 23:30

Hi Alison, thanx for your nice comment about my poem, much appreciated. Not had chance to comment on WOL for a while so missed your work, will have a good look soon tho, best wishes Jeff X

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Mon 3rd Jan 2011 23:13

I happen to like seeing girls fighting & pissing in the streets - especially the latter ;)
And I see Isobel's jumped up on her soapbox..... again!!
Seriously - great points, well made and ones that we could talk through forever.
And Isobel's a sweetie.
True equality & mutual respect can only be a good thing & I'm all for it. As for sacrificing a career (many careers) to have kids - well, that's a choice & a biological fact - that women are the ones with a womb (the clue's in the name). No-one ever said life was fair. We men have our crosses to bear as well (putting up with wimmin for a start :D )

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Fkx

Mon 3rd Jan 2011 23:06

Many thanks, Winston... for your sojourn and kindly response to my poem, "Buttered." You are much appreciated. Cheers, Frederick

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Fkx

Mon 3rd Jan 2011 23:05

Wonderful emotional textures evoked by poignant lines. And what striking images as Lux flakes wafted into the tub in the cellar. An awesome poem. Thanks for sharing.

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Fkx

Mon 3rd Jan 2011 23:01

Aye, Cynthia... and what a beautiful madness poetry is! Thanks for dropping in and responding to my poem, 'Buttered.'.

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kath hewitt

Mon 3rd Jan 2011 22:47

Hi Andy,

Thank you for reading and commenting - yet again!
I seem to have been unable to write anything for a looong time, i think maybe this was a one off!!

:-)

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kath hewitt

Mon 3rd Jan 2011 22:45

Hi Ann,

Thanks for reading and commenting again x

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kath hewitt

Mon 3rd Jan 2011 22:44

Hi Winston, thanks for reading x

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kath hewitt

Mon 3rd Jan 2011 22:44

hi isobel, thanks for reading yet again x

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Ray Miller

Mon 3rd Jan 2011 22:17

Thanks, Andy, Ann and Isobel.This is actually a precis of the first chapter of a not very famous novel.

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Mark Mr T Thompson

Mon 3rd Jan 2011 20:48

My mother tried (and she would say failed) to sum it up in a 10,000 word (well that was the target length, she handed it in incomplete at around twice that length) dissertation, so I think to suggest it could have been done in one poem, much less 25 words, without recourse to generalisation is a bit like hoping the answer to life the universe and everything is 42!
Even if it was the 'right answer' you would not have space or time to adequately context it with the question.

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Isobel

Mon 3rd Jan 2011 20:36

I suppose equality of the sexes/ agreement on traits of the sexes/ behavioural issues/ how we nurture/ how we respect the nurturers - is all a huge subject matter for one poem. I did go off on a bit of a tangent with my earlier comments - homing in on aspects of inequality that have got to me. I suppose they weren't the issues that are core to your poem.
I enjoyed the poem cos it made me think about something that has touched my life big style. I've even started writing a poem about it! It is a piece of catharsis though - so I'm umming and aaghing about whether to finish and post.

I thought your summary was fair. I like to see poetry on here handling serious issues also.

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Mark Mr T Thompson

Mon 3rd Jan 2011 20:29

Thanks Charlene! Did you hear the audio version at the top or just read it?

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Mark Mr T Thompson

Mon 3rd Jan 2011 20:03

Hi Julian, thanks for taking the time to read and respond. My aim is not really to seek agreement with this piece, rather to prompt debate, which it seems to be doing quite well.

Having stated in the opening sentence that I am a feminist I am not sure how I could be more clear about beliefs. I feel that what could be descibed as feminine personality traits (a useful generalisation I feel) tend to be considered of less value.

The bluffers guide would read, "We spotted gender inequality and mistakenly thought that everyone being more masculine was an improvement. Perhaps there was/is/maybe a better way! Please discuss"

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Mon 3rd Jan 2011 19:58

"under the stars" - Thanks for the comments & I do agree that the explanation was unnecessary, but I wanted to say that this was indeed a real event & mirrored an earlier similar event - both of which were marvellous but very strange.

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Mon 3rd Jan 2011 19:51

"Liqueurs, madam" - thanks, yes, that was the general sentiment I had in mind "Oooh, you are awful......"

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Mon 3rd Jan 2011 19:44

Mark, I commend your desire to say something important on this subject. Good for you for your intentions. That being said, I feel that what you achieve does little justice to the topic. As Isobel says, "some generalisations in here"; too many, Mark.
Your piece does not make clear what you stand for or believe in, thus it is impossible to disagree with you. What is the central statement of your piece? What do you intend it to say? If your poem were to be represented on the bluffer's guide, what would be your summary in 25 words or fewer?

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Isobel

Mon 3rd Jan 2011 19:21

Speaking from my own experience, I found that giving up my career to become a full time mum, had a dramatic impact on the whole dynamics of my marriage. Gradually I became a non person - like my opinion didn't count cos I no longer earned money. It was probably overnight really - but I it took me a while to realise it LOL Obviously everyone has different experiences and they will be affected by personal circumstances/individual characteristics.

Within all of this is the importance of nurture, which is something close to my heart. Let's give child rearing it's due importance. Be it the man or the woman who makes sacrifices, sacrifices need to be made. I'm not a big fan of the 'stick your kid into care' from 7am till 6pm kind of regime. The sad thing about our society is that house prices push many into having no choice. Food for thought indeed.

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Mark Mr T Thompson

Mon 3rd Jan 2011 18:28

A bit of controversy won't kill me!

My mother is a radical feminist (BSC in sociology specialising in women's studies) who agrees pretty whole heartedly. So far the only negative feedback has been from people who didn't fully understand it. I would actively encourage ideological critique.

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Cynthia Buell Thomas

Mon 3rd Jan 2011 17:46

Love it. I would take out the bracketted comment as not needed in the roll of invective. Don't remove this piece, it's priceless; reminds me of Robin Williams, the famous American actor, doing a monologue.

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Isobel

Mon 3rd Jan 2011 17:41

There are of course some generalisations in here but on the whole I LOVE it. Too often equality is sought in what I would consider the aping of less attractive male characteristics.

In chasing dreams of equity
We came to be more equal but crucially
We became indifferent to the importance of difference.

I like these lines - along with much of the thought in here. I have long said that true equality lies in giving woman due respect and credit for what she chooses to do - be that the big career or the rearing of children. Given that respect woman will find greater satisfaction in what they do and less internal conflict.

Great poem - great piece of thought - though be prepared for many to disagree with you. x

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Philipos

Mon 3rd Jan 2011 17:37

Hi Cynthia - job done - I agree it does looks better - ta for troubling to comment - having said had trouble doing the amendments system playing up

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Dave D Poet Rhumour

Mon 3rd Jan 2011 17:26

Hi Laura, I think perhaps you are a little hard on yourself, but it is a good exercise to look back over our older poems and see if they can be improved. Personally I think you write very well in English, but we can all 'hone' our work better by returning to it after a while, Some of my poems have been 'tweaked' not just once, but several times over the years and I'm sure I will continue to do that :) Best wishes, Dave

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Larisa Rzhepishevska

Mon 3rd Jan 2011 17:13

Hi, my dearest Dave! Thank you so much for the comment on "Your Love". You know that I've decided to rewrite most of my poems. I think the time has come to do that. I came to the conclusion that a lot of my poems are very week. I mean not the ideas of the poems but the structure of them. So, as far as I have no inspiration today for writing new poems, I've decided to overlook my old ones. Am I right?
With love, hugs and warmest wishes,

Your ever friend,

Laura

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Ian gant

Mon 3rd Jan 2011 17:07

Thank You Alison,

To me rhythm and rhyme are everything and anyway I just can't seem to write anything other than business reports in blank verse.

It just will not flow.

Just firmly set in my ways!!

Regards,

Ian G.

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Larisa Rzhepishevska

Mon 3rd Jan 2011 17:02

Thank you, Dave!

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Dave D Poet Rhumour

Mon 3rd Jan 2011 16:28

Very sweet Larisa :)
Best wishes, Dave

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alisonsmiles68@gmail.com

Mon 3rd Jan 2011 16:25

I loved it, a rhythm that just wouldn't quit, exactly my kind of thing.

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Mark Mr T Thompson

Mon 3rd Jan 2011 16:23

Great stuff Mr English hope to make it one of these!

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Lisa Milligan

Mon 3rd Jan 2011 15:29

Thanks so much for your comments, David! There are a couple others that are lyrics too - if you have time, I'd appreciate it if you checked them out. "Bye Mommy" is one, "Though The Demons Are Waiting" is another and so is "Waves Crash". "Bye Mommy" is in pretty good shape, but the other two probably need work. The rest of my work is mainly free verse.

If not, that's OK too. In any case, thank you for taking the time to comment on "Broken Seashell". Happy New Year!!

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Jeff Dawson

Mon 3rd Jan 2011 15:21

Neatly drawn! A lot said in a few words, great stuff! Jeff X

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Daniel Hooks

Mon 3rd Jan 2011 14:27

cropped the quiet room like you said it does work well i have made it into a song http://soundcloud.com/alienpoet/the-quiet-room-becomes-loneliness

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Fkx

Mon 3rd Jan 2011 13:52

Quite powerful with your diction and phrasing. Will surely return to your works. Thanks for sharing.

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Fkx

Mon 3rd Jan 2011 13:50

Very beautiful... such a pastoral feel with its rustic tones and chirpy lines. Thanks for sharing.

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Fkx

Mon 3rd Jan 2011 13:33

Thank you Ann for reading and responding to my poem, "Consumption." And you were right, it tasted quite good. Now all I need is someone bold enough to read it out loud so we can post it up on youtube or some other venue. Cheers! Frederick

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