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Chris Dawson

Thu 24th Feb 2011 20:08

Thanks for reading and commenting on 'War is such a Cliché' - glad you enjoyed it. I feel a bit embarrassed about pointing it out actually - it just seemed to fit with Rachel's thread :)
But thank-you - really appreciate it.
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Gus Jonsson

Thu 24th Feb 2011 17:33

Hi Andy
Within this poem, ‘World’s Turn’ I am trying visualising the mystery and ever changing beauty of femininity comparing it to the daily splendour of sunset utilising her clothing in metaphor.

Thank you for taking the time to read my work and comment

Thanks again

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Gus Jonsson

Thu 24th Feb 2011 17:31

Good Evening Val
Within this poem, ‘World’s Turn’ I am trying visualising the mystery and ever changing beauty of femininity comparing it to the daily splendour of sunset utilising her clothing in metaphor.

Thank you for taking the time to read my work and comment

Thanks again

Gus xx

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Ray Miller

Thu 24th Feb 2011 15:43

Thanks all.We've 5 daughters and 1 son. My son and I wanted the house painted claret and blue - Aston Villa colours.As always, Girl Power won the day.Dunno what shade of pink it is, blushing I expect. Definitely not posh.

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Val Cook

Thu 24th Feb 2011 15:36

You paint a perfect picture Gus. I have seen such nights and mornings in the rising and the setting of the sun.

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Dave Bradley

Thu 24th Feb 2011 14:35

Thoroughly enjoyed this, Ray. The only house round here that's painted pink belongs to our ex-MP, who lives round the corner (in the posh houses).

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kealan coady

Thu 24th Feb 2011 13:56

life is a dish best served with hash. nice piece man and a clever idea.

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Thu 24th Feb 2011 12:43

I can see her now :-)
beautiful imagery Gus.x

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Cate Greenlees

Thu 24th Feb 2011 12:07

Family mayhem....a wonderful dish served to the slightly insane and not to be tackled by the faint hearted!! Yum yum!
Cate xx

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Isobel

Thu 24th Feb 2011 12:00

You are obtiously a match made in heaven Ray. I think I would love your house, whatever colour. x

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Greg Freeman

Thu 24th Feb 2011 11:16

Light relief! What shade of pink?

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Laura Taylor

Thu 24th Feb 2011 09:59

*cackle* :D

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Laura Taylor

Thu 24th Feb 2011 09:54

I really like this - reminds me of earlier Irvine Welsh writing. Love the 'cultural' [;)] references, the almost-dirty realism, can see Ivor Pie and his ilk, and I do love a nice bit of sneering contempt now and again :D

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Andy N

Thu 24th Feb 2011 08:12

some excellent lines here, steven - i particularly like the first stanza.. if i am honest, it's possibly a bit long for my tastes but it doesn't hide from the power (if that is the right word here) in the piece... nice one, bud

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Andy N

Thu 24th Feb 2011 08:10

particularly love the first stanza, gus although i really enjoyed all of it gus and the last line brought a lump to my throat..

top banana - may see you next week at G & W or W.O.L. Bolton soon???

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Graham Eccles

Thu 24th Feb 2011 05:56

Be not sad for the badger, but be glad of his life, and the food for the crows and insects.
the sad thing is he was probably shot by a TB scared farmer and laid next to the road so it looked like he had been hit by a car. I hope not, but it is quite a commonly done thing.
Having hitched for many years and travelled the roads slower than most, i have seen lots of roadkill close at hand, and found 3 badgers in about 100 yards once. It sickened me, but also opened my eyes to the ways of some farmers.

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Gareth Writer-Davies

Wed 23rd Feb 2011 19:36

Like SB said-but would probably lose verse 4; think it would give last verse a bigger punch Liking the plain statement style.

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Gareth Writer-Davies

Wed 23rd Feb 2011 19:30

Handled with care-hilarious!

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Gareth Writer-Davies

Wed 23rd Feb 2011 19:20

Thanks : )

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Gus Jonsson

Wed 23rd Feb 2011 17:04

Hi Ray


Yes indeedie Poo... I have no idea why there is an 'a' and i also agree that the reverse of wording much improves the flow.


Many thanks for you critique.


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Chris Co

Wed 23rd Feb 2011 02:45

Thx for the feedback in the love poem Val- very much appreciated.

Hopefully make the next wol event in Bolton.

My Best

Chris

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Chris Co

Wed 23rd Feb 2011 02:44

Thx for the feedback on the love poem Laura.

Not been on the site much of late...but hope to catch some of the events in the coming month.

My Best

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Wed 23rd Feb 2011 02:03

Thank you, Winston. :)

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winston plowes

Tue 22nd Feb 2011 22:57

Great Ann! well found and presented for us to enjoy. I really like the repeating storage heater line, more emotional than the vulnerable people policy line for me which is weird! and therefore should be last line. Jumping snippets of important piffle! enjoyed v much. Win x

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winston plowes

Tue 22nd Feb 2011 22:51

more seriously - Honest and powerful extremes in this piece Steven, we have all been there and some in reality as well as in a dream state, The dream state has certain advantages. Thx for posting. Winston

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winston plowes

Tue 22nd Feb 2011 22:49

less cheese Steven...

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winston plowes

Tue 22nd Feb 2011 22:47

Good to have a different experience tonight listening to an audio without text. Transported to a very different place. Winston

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John Aikman

Tue 22nd Feb 2011 22:41

Fabulous...although I think you missed a trick with Sue 'Whitworth'.

'Whitworth (BSW) is one of a number of imperial unit based screw thread standards which use the same bolt heads and nut hexagonal sizes'.

As we all know.

:-)

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Ray Miller

Tue 22nd Feb 2011 22:20

It's every six seconds, actually, John. Trust me.

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John Aikman

Tue 22nd Feb 2011 22:07

High poetry here...puddle nibbled raddled..snarled. Lying, rotting waiting.

The last four lines...well, four and a half, would make a perfectly decent poem on their own...

there’s a badger
lying outside Ferndale
he’s rotting and he’s waiting
for a decent badger burial
poor abandoned badger
lying lonely by the road.

But, the first verse is just as good...

There’s a badger on the road
pushed into the verge
lying in a puddle
getting rather nibbled
his fancy coat is raddled
all snarled up by the rain

Fab, triff, neatness in a sad soggy bundle.

Dead lovely.

Jx


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Ray Miller

Tue 22nd Feb 2011 21:14

I'm not sure that the penultimate line shouldn't be the ultimate line but anyway I thought this was great, really splendid.

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Ray Miller

Tue 22nd Feb 2011 21:06

There's summat about 8 syllabled lines and I liked these two lots

Skirts of bright embroidered ruby
Skirts of bright all jet and golden

I don't know why you think you need "a 2 between petticoat and dawning and I'd prefer shining before sequined.

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Philipos

Tue 22nd Feb 2011 20:29

Powerful and inspiring - well done

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Tue 22nd Feb 2011 20:10

Ray - I won't go over well trodden ground - only to say I agree with all the positive things said about this poem - it's great - well done

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garside

Tue 22nd Feb 2011 20:01

thanks A

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Tue 22nd Feb 2011 19:59

Yup M

many thanks

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Tue 22nd Feb 2011 19:57

many thanks W

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Tue 22nd Feb 2011 19:57

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Philipos

Tue 22nd Feb 2011 19:46

Hi Ann - know how feel about the badger and I do see the bones of an odd one or two on common land either victim of a fox (doubtful) or natural causes - I learnt a new word today 'raddled' always like that about a poem. We are always so sentimental about such creatures and yet nature just recycles in the interests of hygiene x

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Ann Foxglove

Tue 22nd Feb 2011 19:43

Thanks Greg - but we're only a little charity! It's always a case of "all human life is here" though I guess!

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Greg Freeman

Tue 22nd Feb 2011 19:21

... and all the better for it. Really enjoyed this, Ann. Maybe you should tag it 'big society'!

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Ann Foxglove

Tue 22nd Feb 2011 18:45

Today he is gone. RIP.

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Ann Foxglove

Tue 22nd Feb 2011 18:40

A totally "found" poem.

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Francine

Tue 22nd Feb 2011 18:08

Merci beaucoup Isobel pour tes commentaires sur mon poème
'All that you want...'
La dernière ligne n'est pas nécessairement triste...
Cela dépend comment tu le lis et comment tu l'interprètes ; )

Alors... Qu'est-ce que tu penses maintenant d'après notre conversation d'hier ???

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Isobel

Tue 22nd Feb 2011 16:25

My, you are a serious soul Julian...

I am glad you understand my sense of humour Dave. The massacre of millions of innocent people is a sombre subject indeed. The ability to sometimes make light helps me to cope with the world as it is and as it was.

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Dave Bradley

Tue 22nd Feb 2011 12:36

Thanks for coming in, Julian, but I really don't mind. What Izz says is all part of the 'robust exchanges' which make WOL so much fun, and is a legitimate point of view. It's only when people get personally hostile that it's a problem and that hasn't happened for me so far.

Like many others, I went through the background to the world wars exhaustively at A level and university. It's very, very complex but one thing seems certain - if the Allies had been more intelligent, imaginative and generous-spirited towards Germany in 1919 then the Nazis would have had fewer grievances to build on. Perhaps it was asking too much after such an appalling war. At least the lesson was understood and things were different after 1945. Who says we never learn?

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Tue 22nd Feb 2011 12:15

I am not sure that, in terms of encouraging quality of debate, putting down a well-considered, thought-provoking reply such as Dave's, is helpful.
It is, in fact, one of the most important questions of our era that Ray's poem reminds us of so well: what might have been? How did it happen? To assume that it is all down to one man who had a dangerous, misguided charisma is to "under think" perhaps the greatest tragedy of the 20th century, one that is the reason I exist and overshadowed most of my life.
As Einstein reminded us: to every complex human problem there is always a simple solution; and it is almost invariably wrong.

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Isobel

Tue 22nd Feb 2011 11:03

You over think things Dave. You obviously haven't watched any Bruce Willis films. Not many people could deliver speeches like him or whip up such a frenzy - the bastard needed shooting.

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Dave Bradley

Tue 22nd Feb 2011 10:48

Intriguing and well written. There is an 'Alternative Histories' genre which explores the 'what ifs'. I would lean towards a view that Germany's predicament would have led to a successful extreme right-wing party of some kind. Maybe without Hitler it wouldn't have been quite so appalling, but who knows. And that's the point isn't it - who knows? Who is in a sufficiently godlike position to really know what someone will do? Psychiatrists making decisions on whether to recommend release of potentially violent prisoners face this dilemma every day.

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Greg Freeman

Tue 22nd Feb 2011 09:08

Thanks Isobel for putting my small worry in perspective, and giving Ray's poem its proper due. (I love Springtime for Hitler, Ray, and the North Minehead by-election sketch)!

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