I disagree strongly about the use of initial caps in this poem, Cynthia. I think they weaken the poem - which isn't very strong anyway, becaue of its naive left-wing politics (sorry Tommy).
Dearie me, this blog section and its comments, are they about an exchange of honest opinions or do they merely constitute a bland social network which offers everyone "hugs". We have a responsibility as poets to be honest in our opinions.
And as a feminist and a men's liberationist, I feel that women are the worst offenders in these blog comments in offering facile "hugs" style comments.
Come girls, time to woman up!
Comment is about An abstraction of events (blog)
Original item by Tommy Carroll
No, it is not impossible.
You can be passionate about something and take great pleasure
in putting an end to it...
'We must kill the system
With love.'
Comment is about Kill The System (blog)
Original item by Kealan Coady
It's impossible to kill and love
Comment is about Kill The System (blog)
Original item by Kealan Coady
<Deleted User> (7075)
Thu 11th Aug 2011 22:48
Hi Natasha
That 'permissions' notice is more than likely because you are not a full member of WOL. Contact Julian at his profile below for more datails as he is the one taking entries. or email julian@julianjordan.co.uk
Comment is about Like to write poetry at Ted Hughes' house? - last chance for a place (article)
Original item by Greg Freeman
Hah! What an absolute waste of time! Over and out!
Comment is about Spontaneous Combustion (blog)
This poem is written and is based on a well known novel "Master and Margaret" by Mikhail Bulgakov
Comment is about NEVER TALK TO A STRANGER (blog)
Original item by Larisa Rzhepishevska
Hello, dear Lynn! Thank you so much for your comment. How are you? I've missed you!
With love and warmest wishes, Larisa
Comment is about Lynn Dye (poet profile)
Original item by Lynn Dye
Well done, Laura, very much enjoyed your poem, and also the discussion from all on here. I also feel sorrow at such distruction, and can blame parenting up to a point, but I also look at the bigger picture, and while it doesn't excuse their behaviour, we should try and understand the cause and effect. I agree with your views on governments and banking; in fact, my other half could have written this too!
Comment is about Cause and Effect (blog)
Original item by Laura Taylor
Very good... : )
Killer last line!
Comment is about Kill The System (blog)
Original item by Kealan Coady
Witty and topical...
It's nice to try out different forms of writing - interesting structure too, the Villanelle.
Comment is about Reading, Rioting and (A)rithmetic - a villanelle (blog)
Original item by Dave Carr
Mrs Thatcher speaks very highly of you! Enjoyed your rant, some great points and who would have thought China would be the currently in charge of the world after the yanks and ourselves have had a go over the last couple of centuries running it, long live the all you can eat buffet!
Seriously though sad state of affairs and while there are reasons that some folk want to vent anger that wasn't the original cause of the trouble or the end of it, a lot of the rioters are either in work in decemt jobs, have wealthy parents, (had) good prospects or werent old enough to work (or sign on as the case may be), and hardly underfed or hard done to on their mobiles or blackberries), those who might have had a cause got lost in that.
I don't know the answer to that, some people like the thrill a bit like the football hooligan who works for a bank or solicitors etc, not even to do with rivalry!
There are of course deep rooted problems and I have to agree with a lot of the things you (and Bob on facebook!) have said. I said to Bob, the govt have been naive to implement the extreme cuts at such a rapid rate and all this was no surprise for those who are oppressed to make a point even if the cause was something else that sparked it off. I work in benefits, yeah something needs doing to get more people off the sick, etc, etc, but doing what, evrywhere is losing jobs and theres already 2 million unemployed, the maths dont work, after the miners, poll tax, students, G8 summits, it aint rocket science that this will happen at the slightest chance.
we need to value society, and give hope to those who do need it, not take the piss with bonuses when even the banks lose money and so on, I just hope that the good relations that have been built between police and communities dont take as long to heal, and that the people who care about this country get it back to the tolerant society we are fortunate enough to have and show the dignity expressed by the man whose son got killed in hit and run, right will get off my soap box!! thanx Jeff
Comment is about Cause and Effect (blog)
Original item by Laura Taylor
Nice one Kealon, very philosophical view of the current unrest and a valid argument for all to move forward best way possible, very few have had good reason to be even involved in the latest debacle, Jeff
Comment is about Kill The System (blog)
Original item by Kealan Coady
<Deleted User> (9554)
Thu 11th Aug 2011 19:37
It might not be your joke John but you have certainly enhanced it. I've done this a couple of times myself. I would say it was poetic licence.
About the underwear, I'm sorry but it's gone to Qxfam. It depends on what part of the world you are from weather you will be a recipient or not.
Cheers John. Carry on blogging. Tommy Mc.
Comment is about John Coopey (poet profile)
Original item by John Coopey
Nice one mate, now see me for detention!
Comment is about Reading, Rioting and (A)rithmetic - a villanelle (blog)
Original item by Dave Carr
<Deleted User> (6895)
Thu 11th Aug 2011 19:21
big big changes are a-comin-
the fan hitting shit
is gonna stink
long time-and large(r)
and there aint clothes pegs big enough.
Comment is about now what? (blog)
Original item by SPACEGHOST
<Deleted User> (6895)
Thu 11th Aug 2011 19:14
powerful
and teetering on the edge
of truth.
can we survive the coming fall?
Phanx.
Comment is about The Disappeared, Truthful Evil (blog)
<Deleted User> (6895)
Thu 11th Aug 2011 19:07
well,speaking from under
two duvets,
all I can say is
that the last line is c-c-correct!
dont say there are rioters up there
pooing on us from another angle
eh Lynn?
c-c-c-catch y-y-you -l-l-later.
S-S-S-Stef. xx
Comment is about Summer Seasons (blog)
Original item by Lynn Dye
<Deleted User> (9554)
Thu 11th Aug 2011 19:05
Nothing is impossible Lynn. Go for it girl!
Love your turn of Phrase. I've just read "Impossibility.^ Will read more when I get my new glasses.
Thanks for your lovely comment on
"Three's a crowd" That was just one of four poems
on the theme of ten words. I will be blogging the others in due course. In the mean-time check out my "Strictly for the birds." and imagine Johnny Cash and "A boy named Sue."
Comment is about Lynn Dye (poet profile)
Original item by Lynn Dye
<Deleted User> (6895)
Thu 11th Aug 2011 19:00
this regime?
have they got the balls to be one?
lucky for scumbags
that gaddaffy duck
aint head boy here!
Comment is about An abstraction of events (blog)
Original item by Tommy Carroll
<Deleted User> (6895)
Thu 11th Aug 2011 18:54
do you know
#don,t jump off the roof dad
you,ll make a hole
in the floor#
?
a very raw moving poem.
Stef.
Comment is about I`M SINGING BECAUSE… (blog)
<Deleted User> (6895)
Thu 11th Aug 2011 18:46
Hi Dave-
nice rhythm.
clever poem.
a subject bound unfortunately
to become pattern setting.
phanx m8.
Stef.
Comment is about Reading, Rioting and (A)rithmetic - a villanelle (blog)
Original item by Dave Carr
<Deleted User> (6895)
Thu 11th Aug 2011 18:39
Hi Lynn
nice to see you back
to see you back-NICE!
hope the break didja good.
very appreciative of your comments
on 'Biding' and 'Justuselessscum'
strange sad world indeed-
but never defeated by those
who-are-strange and sad.
warmest regards to family and Benji.xx
Comment is about Lynn Dye (poet profile)
Original item by Lynn Dye
Thu 11th Aug 2011 17:56
me likey. very 'of the moment'!
Comment is about Kill The System (blog)
Original item by Kealan Coady
noo not a quote Laura :o)
noo ray- not anticipating fame :o)
Comment is about An abstraction of events (blog)
Original item by Tommy Carroll
It's a nice poem, Ann. Enjoyed it. I think The Rub would make a nice title.
Comment is about the rub (blog)
Original item by Ann Foxglove
Have you met my bloke Bob? ;)
Great poem btw
Comment is about Kill The System (blog)
Original item by Kealan Coady
But if it's not a quotation, why the quotation marks? Are you anticipating fame?
'There is a Court
in the collective
consciousness
of the workers
I think the jury's out on that one.
Comment is about An abstraction of events (blog)
Original item by Tommy Carroll
Alright Tommy - thanks :) Good to know that my feelings and analysis are shared. Take care :)
Comment is about Tommy Carroll (poet profile)
Original item by Tommy Carroll
Hi Cynthia - thanks again for reading and contributing. I feel confident in all of what I have written, and I totally understand your note of caution. Direct experience and observation of preceding years, plus that which is in the public domain already, is the basis of that confidence. Thanks again though :)
Good day's debating!
Comment is about Cynthia Buell Thomas (poet profile)
Original item by Cynthia Buell Thomas
Ah now, this reminds of the the dictatorship of the proletariat...
Or is it?! I've re-read this now several times...hmmm
Offski - will think more about this
Comment is about An abstraction of events (blog)
Original item by Tommy Carroll
Not a quote- I used it this way earlier-ta for the apostrophe.
Comment is about An abstraction of events (blog)
Original item by Tommy Carroll
On the poetry side it has a nice rhthm and rhyme going. It'd perform well, as the saying goes. I'd go for
but don't you know from where they root. For the extra rhyme.
I'd ditch the 3rd verse and make the 5th into answers rather than questions.
As for the real world, to explain why someone behaves in certain ways is not to excuse that behaviour.An awful lot of people cannot not get their heads round this or wilfully ignore it.
Much of this week's behaviour is just opportunism and greed. But I think also there's an awareness in the land that things have gone wrong, and regardless of who might be to blame, the consequences are not being shared out equally. The present shenanigans distract us very nicely from that. Not that I'm a conspiracy theorist or anything!
Comment is about Cause and Effect (blog)
Original item by Laura Taylor
Sometimes I cringe at the unguarded post; sometimes I wish a more tempered response to events had been observed and sometimes, as is the case here, a full on rant of unbridled anger is called for- I have read others posts and your responses Laura- I for one am in total agreement. Your analysis of 'cause and effect' is correct. Well done.
PS Cameron and Boris Johnson were responsible for wrecking a 15th century restaurant, and Borris also set fire to the toilet.
Comment is about Cause and Effect (blog)
Original item by Laura Taylor
Very apt and clever observation. Is it a quote? Only asking because of the speech marks. IMO, tuck an apostrophe into 'regime's'. I like the capital letters - an old poetic trick which never loses power.
Comment is about An abstraction of events (blog)
Original item by Tommy Carroll
Laura and Isobel, what a terrific discussion. Laura, my point only was to caution against extreme statements which are seemingly self-evident, before digging more deeply into original and/or parallel causes and effects. That 9/11 murder was a preconceived act, waiting only for a catalyst, however indirect. We all read what we want to read into situations; and this weakness is a severe political pitfall.
Some of the suggested 'retaliatory' schemes are idiotic to the extreme, and are almost scarier than the destruction and pillaging.
*now off MY soapbox!
But look at you, standing up tall,like a Greek StatesWoman firing her ideas full force at the assembled crowd, in the finest manner of persuasive rhetoric. I am in awe.
Comment is about Cause and Effect (blog)
Original item by Laura Taylor
With love and organised insurrection-viva!
:o)
Comment is about Kill The System (blog)
Original item by Kealan Coady
Philipos
Thu 11th Aug 2011 15:18
Hi Cynthia,'O Sweet Confusion' I think your friend's suggestion has some merit. Read as set out below: your poem could be said to have greater thrust.
'Wisdom is not chronological.One wasp hidden in the gentle petals makes all the blossoms suspect and much joy is lost'.
Comment is about Cynthia Buell Thomas (poet profile)
Original item by Cynthia Buell Thomas
The plan was to have my theatre piece alongside the poetry at 8pm, but with the riots one of my actresses and my sound engineer are out of action and we're rescheduling the theatre piece from the end of September instead now.
Guests from both days are of course free entry both tonight at half 6 and tomorrow.
For 10 pounds a membership card for future events is included, and originally it would have included a free screening of my play as part of the event.
Instead we're going to give the option of £7 for the evening of poetry and the membership card for future discounts or £10 with free entry to the shows in late September/early October on 29th, 30th, and 1st October.
Comment is about Cynthia Buell Thomas (poet profile)
Original item by Cynthia Buell Thomas
I see there is a 10Pound charge. I'm presuming this would be just for my husband, and not for me as a guest reader. What do you get for this charge, besides excellent poetry, of course?
Comment is about Ushiku Crisafulli (poet profile)
Original item by Ushiku Crisafulli
A lovely human spirit shines out in all you do Harry.
Comment is about I`M SINGING BECAUSE… (blog)
I think this is excellent Dave. Says so much but in a relaxed almost jaunty way, deceptively chilling!
Comment is about Camped (blog)
Original item by Dave Bradley
Good afternoon Cynthia
Thank you so much for your insight and for taking the time to read and comment on my poem.
long time no see Cynthia I hope you are well.
Many Thanks
Gus xx
Comment is about Brown as Comfort (blog)
Original item by Gus Jonsson
I enjoyed this very much, Larisa. You have a gift of putting into words what a lot of us feel. I can't always put my finger on it, I often over-express. Loved it. Lynn xx
Comment is about Can't Be Indifferent (blog)
Original item by Larisa Rzhepishevska
<Deleted User> (6315)
Thu 11th Aug 2011 13:07
The wardrobe terrified me when little lol...
Comment is about ghosties (blog)
Original item by John Embley
Hi Ann, a lady after my own heart, just love this poem, and bugger housework is right!! Lynn xx
Comment is about silly housework poem (warning - contains the word bugger;) (blog)
Original item by Ann Foxglove
<Deleted User> (9608)
Thu 11th Aug 2011 13:05
i just tried to register and was told i didn't have the right 'permissions'... oh dear! please let me know if i am indeed unpermissable for this course... it sounds great!
thanks
tasha
Comment is about Like to write poetry at Ted Hughes' house? - last chance for a place (article)
Original item by Greg Freeman
Lizzie
Fri 12th Aug 2011 10:42
Brilliant :)
Comment is about Reading, Rioting and (A)rithmetic - a villanelle (blog)
Original item by Dave Carr