Thank you Jane. Thank you Francine for feeling things the way I feel them. I couldn't watch beyond the first few seconds of the video because I felt so sick with anger - but yes, the treatment of the Jews definitely came to mind.
The big issue here for me is that British taxpayers money has been used to buy this work and we are currently displaying it in a prominent art gallery to children and students. What message are we putting out to future generations? One that I thought we'd put to bed with Auschwitz. And in the name of art...
Comment is about Turning Over Tables (blog)
Original item by Isobel
I read the ideas behind it and watched the video. I find it sadistic, degrading, and unconscionable. How can this be called art when in fact he is exploiting the very ideas he wants to explore - and use as a metaphor! As I watched the video, I couldn't help but be reminded of the Nazi camps!
Comment is about Turning Over Tables (blog)
Original item by Isobel
Thx Julian :-)
Comment is about Mark this: Winston Plowes judging US magazine's found poetry contest (article)
Original item by Greg Freeman
Thanks for your comments on Loire and Phoenix, Isobel. Phoenix is named after a campaign group that is trying to establish a permanent live music and arts venue in Woking. In the meantime they meet in an empty shop next to the JobCentre. I read it there tonight, to a small but attentive audience. Your campaign seems a worthy cause, too.
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Mon 16th Sep 2013 23:34
'oh and btw'(haha)is that your art work of Mr Zimmerman-if 'tis-'tis cool!cya soon.
Love Solar.x
Comment is about ODE TO DYLAN (blog)
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Mon 16th Sep 2013 23:22
ditto all previous comments.Well done Jane.xx
Comment is about Independence Day (blog)
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Mon 16th Sep 2013 23:05
whhhhat!!! no comments-I love that 'oh and btw'touch-sooo funny.I think we have the same sense of humour!x
Comment is about ODE TO DYLAN (blog)
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Mon 16th Sep 2013 22:40
the whole poem,title and all,go together perfectly -really enjoyed this one Jane,and always nice to have you back on board.My very best regards to you
x
Comment is about Independence Day (blog)
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to everyone ty very much appreciated :)
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Mon 16th Sep 2013 22:35
Ian,no pun intended,but this is one cool poem.x
Comment is about A Scarecrow Dreams Of Leaving (blog)
Original item by Ian Whiteley
Very effective and well-crafted poem, Jane. Liked "screwdriver rain", "the past, present, and future knitted", "torrential dusk", and the parents' reactions. My sister-in-law experienced the same thing this weekend, journeying from Brighton to Manchester, both children now gone.
Comment is about Independence Day (blog)
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Thank you for your comment - yes, I do dark poetry indeed...glad you liked, Katy x
Comment is about alan barlow (poet profile)
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I feel sorry for shrine trees, stood years upon years with ribbons and photos of grief even when the spring has turned again.
Comment is about Cuckoo (blog)
Original item by John Darwin
I enjoyed this: we walk our own roads, it is out own tread upon the earth.
Comment is about Phoenix (blog)
Original item by Greg Freeman
They should buy your poem and put it up next to it. It would be a much more significant and powerful statement - though the video should not exist I agree.
Comment is about Turning Over Tables (blog)
Original item by Isobel
Sounds excellent! Sorry I couldn't make it - couldn't get away from work with the new term starting. Looks like I missed some brilliant work!
Comment is about September Collage Poem - The Sun (blog)
Original item by Stockport WoL
Liked the vividness of this Ian, a sad occasion well recorded in your words. Win
Comment is about She Wears Pink (blog)
Original item by Ian Whiteley
Hi Julian, Yes, unfortunately it does. I was aware of this but it was more important not to clash with other much closer events in Sowerby, Todmorden and Halifax and the venue also only had limited days.
Comment is about Char March first guest at Shindig launch in Hebden Bridge (article)
Original item by Greg Freeman
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Mon 16th Sep 2013 16:40
Mr Wilde on a motorbike!?....LOOK OUT EVERYONE! nice to see a biker poem Alan-cheers.x
Comment is about Weekend Wanderer (blog)
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Mon 16th Sep 2013 16:36
is there a translated version please Jean? haha.
poor old Mr Finn.He isnt Huckleberrys Dad by any chance?...;0)thanks for the 'ard wuk.As previously stated I love the different approaches.'Kep um cummin!x
Comment is about Mickey Finn(Awld Lancy Poem) Anonymoose (blog)
Original item by jean lucy thompson
It`s not what you do, Cynthia, it`s the way that you do it...even this kind of deadly stuff
I particularly like:
`upon slabs of self-interest.`
Comment is about Metaphor (blog)
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Mon 16th Sep 2013 16:22
awwww! I was quite moved by this fabulous poem Jean.I love all your different approaches to poetry,I'm not keen when poets write in a 'one paced style way'.
Please do keep them coming-love-Solar.x
Comment is about Was This the Plan (blog)
Original item by jean lucy thompson
Steve,
I wonder what it is about height and massivness that compels awe?
I think the `drama` stems from a feeling that -whatever the grinding has done afterwards - the original forming was somehow catastrophic.
The second line of the final section is the big, big question.(after all, if you `flatline` a drawing of arelatively small area of sea-level earth themountains can appear pimplelike).
I enjoyed:`oozing in the long groan of it`s melting;
`And that...`rumble away`
Comment is about Glen Sannox (blog)
Original item by STEVE RUDD
This video features in the DLA Piper Series: Constellations. It is the work of Santiago Sierra. A group of drug addicted prostitutes were induced to have these tattoos for money. The piece is supposed to explore the concepts of power, economic exploitation and objectification of the human body. The Tate have paid for it and now have it on display. Shame on them!
Comment is about Turning Over Tables (blog)
Original item by Isobel
Simon,
I`d love to see you re-do this as a sonnet.
Comment is about September Sisters (blog)
Original item by Simon Austin
Ian,
Nice, neat, apt and delightful rhymer in `ight`...particularly like that `snow-flesh` and the way the `coal` eyes pull it up at the end
(and it`s one of those where the poem actually
out-classes the picture)
Comment is about A Scarecrow Dreams Of Leaving (blog)
Original item by Ian Whiteley
I enjoyed this Greg. Though inspired by your own life, it's outward looking. I hope you now get to do all the mad things that mad people do - just wish I could join you!
Comment is about Phoenix (blog)
Original item by Greg Freeman
Great poem Cynthia - I love the parallels you draw. Man has great capacity for cruelty - sometimes it overwhelms me how accepting of it we all are.
Comment is about Metaphor (blog)
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I like this, David. It opens with an interesting explanation, and closes with a particular experience extended for several lines, presumably to emphasise the grip of that memory which was beyond the casual, the underbelly of the 'tourist-y' attractions.
Comment is about HOME TOWN (blog)
Original item by David Subacchi
Great rhythm to this, John, and well-chosen words: "wither", "wilt", "estate agents' bluster". Maybe you could consider adding another stanza, to give it even more impact?
Comment is about Cuckoo (blog)
Original item by John Darwin
Dave, thanks for your kind comments on Loire. I was admit, I was surprised to find that Angers was twinned with Wigan. But why not? I've just put another one up, reflections on the first few months of retirement ...
Comment is about Dave Bradley (poet profile)
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Mon 16th Sep 2013 08:39
And sound your thoughts are too, Brian. There's no money in poetry...
Comment is about From Chickentown to McCain chips: but does Cooper Clarke's new ad put you off your tea? (article)
Original item by Greg Freeman
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Sun 15th Sep 2013 22:58
hey Jean-dont forget the '?'s...xx
Comment is about Was This the Plan (blog)
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ta very much one and all :)
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Sun 15th Sep 2013 22:53
you always deliver the goods,girly-fantaz!xx
Comment is about Ouroborus (blog)
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Sun 15th Sep 2013 22:51
ps-will be doing poem with posing pikky of me on my machine in very near future-Mrs Scaredycat Wilde wont be riding pillion she says!ah well! her loss,my gain-on the cost of leathers and helmet!xx
Comment is about Weekend Wanderer (blog)
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Sun 15th Sep 2013 22:28
cool bike!cool poem! wont be long before my(Mr Wildes)custom chopper is gonna be delivered! cant wait!keep cruising guys!
Comment is about Weekend Wanderer (blog)
Original item by alan barlow
I have a feeling this one will stick in the memory
Comment is about Cuckoo (blog)
Original item by John Darwin
Nice one John. But what is your vision fixed on?
Comment is about Years (blog)
Very moving John - in a sad mournful way. I like the way you juxtapose the tragedy with the inconvenience of it all. I can remember suicides on the underground when I used to commute and how all that tragedy condensed itself into frustration at being trapped or late for work, or late getting home.
Comment is about Cuckoo (blog)
Original item by John Darwin
Love it! Many of us have been on that wheel John - and when you look back, it seems inconceivable that you ran for so long xx
Comment is about Years (blog)
I think that after years of giving us great inspiration JCC deserves the money and at 65 he probably does not have a pension pot to dig at. If living comfortably in old age means selling your soul then well done John. Also as regards to R Mc I think his vocal presentation is really catchy & has inspired me to do performance..
Just my thoughts
BRW
Comment is about From Chickentown to McCain chips: but does Cooper Clarke's new ad put you off your tea? (article)
Original item by Greg Freeman
haha Isobel...nice and feisty and camp as Christmas! Loved it and your performance at the Tudor on Thursday xx
Comment is about Beautiful (blog)
Original item by Isobel
steve mellor
Sun 15th Sep 2013 12:25
I look forward to listening to Char March at your new venue. See you at 8
Comment is about Char March first guest at Shindig launch in Hebden Bridge (article)
Original item by Greg Freeman
I wish I had something slightly more intelligent to say but lo wow I love this, so encapsulating. Christ I thought I was dark
Comment is about Ouroborus (blog)
Original item by Katy Megan
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Sat 14th Sep 2013 19:29
heckofalotof hard work here,with fantastic results-great poem Katy!x
Comment is about Ouroborus (blog)
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Sat 14th Sep 2013 12:38
a wonderfully written, informative, evocative and entertaining piece of writing. Thank you.
Comment is about Simon Armitage's walk: 'He had vaguely imagined a stroll along the beach' (article)
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Fri 13th Sep 2013 22:31
now then Frederick! don't ruin the saintly image we had of you,even if this effin poem is effin good! one thing we cannot stand,is..the kind of b*****rds that just cannot stop f***ing swearing!! unlike us-haha!xx
Comment is about Profitable Profanities (blog)
Isobel
Tue 17th Sep 2013 08:21
Beautiful Jane. I love the way the title contrasts so sharply to the emotions of the poem. You expect joy, release, happiness but the poem delivers nostalgia and more than a little sadness at your loss. I love the effect of the unspoken here. xx
And fathers don’t show it
And mothers don’t say it.
We travel back in torrential dusk –
She’s gone
Comment is about Independence Day (blog)
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