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Thu 3rd Oct 2013 17:08

Thank you for your service. My late father was stationed in London throughout the Second World War with the OSS, and the city's bombing. He said his handprints were on every sidewalk of London. He asked me once if I understood how Britain survived the war, and when I was silent, said, "because the whole People are valiant."

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M.C. Newberry

Thu 3rd Oct 2013 16:59

Food for thought: the ongoing personal puzzle of
the passing and the perennial - and their elusive
presence in our lives.
Welcome back.

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Laura Taylor

Thu 3rd Oct 2013 16:58

Go away MCN

Removed your comment - stop trying to show off

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M.C. Newberry

Thu 3rd Oct 2013 16:03

Interesting. I would have thought the poem's
"question" would've been aimed at ITV etc. rather
than the BBC whose alleged bias chimes with the
job ads. placed in "The Guardian".
So - where was the missing coverage complained
of - and why was it absent?

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Andy N

Thu 3rd Oct 2013 13:50

the truth to put it simply.

i love honest poetry like this.

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Andy N

Thu 3rd Oct 2013 13:49

need to refer this to our Cathy, Laura. It's defo her cup of tea also.

For me - I loved it to put it simply.

It's a great piece and i hope the demo does do something. We have to hope it does i guess.

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Gray Nicholls

Thu 3rd Oct 2013 13:46

excellent, excellent Laura. Raises some serious points here... kinda annoyed me that the BBC and some of the other news didn't cover as much as they should have.

does raise the point will the demo do anything however? i hope it does, but am worried it won't.

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Cathy Crabb

Thu 3rd Oct 2013 12:22

Thanks Steve. That's true and the only fact. X

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Cathy Crabb

Thu 3rd Oct 2013 12:17

Yes. On Saturday, when I wasn't allowed to go, the other team awarded him their man of the match. I am usually quiet but not when it comes to harm. It's a good lesson to learn I guess in not being able to solve everything.

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Laura Taylor

Thu 3rd Oct 2013 09:27

Haha - loving the new profile pic :D

And exactly, re chips/JCC. Bloody hell, it's not like he's advertising arms or owt is it?!

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Laura Taylor

Thu 3rd Oct 2013 09:24

Cheers Greg and Dave. Yep Greg, it was :) I'm really glad this poem moved you so much.


MC - Jog on, you tiresome right wing troll. You make a bigger show of yourself each time you post anything. Sad thing is, you don't see it yourself.

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Ian Whiteley

Wed 2nd Oct 2013 19:22

thanks, once again, for your kind and supportive comments on the JCC thing Laura - totally agree with you about the 'chips' thing, he deserves it - we'd all give our right arms to make that sort of money out of poetry - it's only the snobs who think you should forever suffer for your 'art' lol :-)
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Ian Whiteley

Wed 2nd Oct 2013 19:19

thanks for the kind comment on 'dust' starfish - much appreciated as always
Ian

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Ian Whiteley

Wed 2nd Oct 2013 19:18

thanks for the kind comments on 'dust' Isobel - yes, I was pleased with that ending which just dropped upon me, unplanned, from the....dust :-)
Cheers
Ian

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Ian Whiteley

Wed 2nd Oct 2013 19:17

thanks for the kind comments on 'dust' marksy - much appreciated mate
Ian

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Ian Whiteley

Wed 2nd Oct 2013 19:15

thanks for your kind comments on 'dust' Dave - it's a real pity when you write something that you think is profound only to find that someone else had the idea a long while ago :-( still - great minds think alike I suppose - and they do say that no idea is ever really unique

also - a big thanks for your kind comments on the JCC poem Dave - much appreciated as always

Ian

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Vik

Wed 2nd Oct 2013 18:06

Hi Cynthia - the poem's original language is English.

I've just added a scan of a handwritten translation into Bengali, done by Saleh Uddin Talukdar and Afia Begum during a workshop - but unfortunately not sure if it's legible - I thought we'd be able to click on the image to open it bigger in a new window, but I don't think that happens.

During the workshop there was lots of discussion about the layers of images in Carol's poem; the connotations of the "chaste, virgin, untouched" imagery and the way it's connected with snow and whiteness; and the idea of the bricks, and how to translate the idea of something that is at once structured, and also muddled.

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Mark Mr T Thompson

Wed 2nd Oct 2013 18:04

It is that time again tomorrow!

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M.C. Newberry

Wed 2nd Oct 2013 17:53

By all means, let us rejoice and celebrate the
freedom to protest against perceived injustice.
I'm not sure about who are "the many" and who
are "the few" when considering current national
sensibilities about the wider benefits of contributing through work whenever possible.
I'm considering the representation of lawyers
challenging a £500 per week cap on benefits at
the High Court. It is hardly likely to elicit
heartwarming sympathy from those working hard
for nothing like that gratis sum.

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M.C. Newberry

Wed 2nd Oct 2013 17:23

Thanks for the comments, one and all.
Ray - I was tempted to use "determined" in the last line but the alliteration of 'seem' & 'set'
appealed more and I was content to double up on
"to".
If you "sing" the first two lines - the word
'even' keeps the rhythm - IMHO.

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Steve Higgins

Wed 2nd Oct 2013 15:47

Fabulous -straight to the point!
Best wishes, Steve

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Steve Higgins

Wed 2nd Oct 2013 15:13

Thanks for looking in on red wine. Not my best work but and maybe too personal but I'll just say 'cheers'anyway, Steve

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Dave Bradley

Wed 2nd Oct 2013 13:34

Enjoyed this Ian. Particularly liked 'raging zeitgeist troubadour'.

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Dave Bradley

Wed 2nd Oct 2013 13:31

Wholeheartedly agree with Greg. The way that the Tories have cynically and hard-heartedly worked with the right-wing press to make 'benefits' a 'bad word' is sickening. We should be proud that this country does so much to look after those with needs - that we act like a proper community. Of course there are abuses and the system needs monitoring and administering. But it is still a wonderful thing. But we're now in a state in which politicians can hardly dare stand up and say what great things benefits are - and they ARE!!. Just ask anyone in a poorer country or look at our own history. Well done, Laura.

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Greg Freeman

Wed 2nd Oct 2013 12:35

Tories may sneer and mock, but I don't mind admitting, Laura, that I welled up reading this. What a moving, inspiring poem! Great that you mentioned Shelley, too. Don't know if it's true but I read somewhere that it was the greatest congregation of protesters in Manchester since Peterloo. Very fine piece of work. I will try and find this poem now and again, every time I feel I need to cheer myself up.

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Laura Taylor

Wed 2nd Oct 2013 11:15

Great idea for a poem! And when you perform it you're gonna HAVE to do it in a Salford drawl ;D

I've nowt against him doing that ad btw, it's up to bloody him innit?

Anyway, thought the repetition of Johnny Clarke very effective, and you didn't do the predictable thing of incorporating loads of his lines in your own poem.

Nice tribute.


Bloody hell Ray!! Did ya?! Woooo!!! You can still be working class and like nice wine and cake you know. Ahem.

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Laura Taylor

Wed 2nd Oct 2013 11:02

Howdy Cynth!

Many thanks for your lovely note on 'Fragment'. Can't begin to tell you how strong and euphoric the feeling was. The hypnagogic state is very similar to an opiated one, and I think that led to the feelings. I've tried in the past to teeter within the hypnagogic state as I find it so immensely pleasurable, but it's a contrary beast and will not be controlled easily ha :D

Yes - I would agree completely with you about the different layers of poetry and its reception. Sometimes I think a piece isn't 'good enough' to blog, and then I think 'well, this was such a strong thing within me, and it's not as 'good' as X or Y or Z, in a certain way, but that's because it is a DIFFERENT animal altogether'. So I blog it, and be damned haha ;D

Anyway, thanks again :)


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Ian Whiteley

Tue 1st Oct 2013 19:11

thanks ray - amended for accuracy following your knowledgeable comment :-)

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Tue 1st Oct 2013 17:32

;)))

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Paul Sands

Tue 1st Oct 2013 15:31

bad dreams and PPI :)

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Tue 1st Oct 2013 13:42

I love this poem, and the way it unconsciously ( perhaps) reflects modern physics.

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Cynthia Buell Thomas

Tue 1st Oct 2013 13:15

I believe you. I applaud you! I envy you. Never lose that dream. Even the poem above, just 'scribbled' in haste, carries much power.

Most poems that I consider 'great' are very simple ones, easily structured, easily stored in memory, and not necessarily supported or propped up by educated dictums.

To be honest, I'm not sure 'great poems' are even possible anymore. As in: 'great to whom'? The scope, and sheer numbers, of writers and readers has broadened so much, that perhaps there will now be only 'great poems in certain circles'. We have such distinct strata now, each reaching a particular audience, that cross-over may be severely limited. I sincerely believe that one 'type' cannot claim to be better than another. Such dialogue will be entirely within a particular layer.

So keep writing, shafting your great talent straight out to the world in your own inimitable way.

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Tue 1st Oct 2013 13:08

"Song to the Sea" is stirring and deeply touching. The fourth stanza knocked me off my feet- to my eyes, a single poem.

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Cynthia Buell Thomas

Tue 1st Oct 2013 12:33

I totally agree that the word was taken out of context within 'social banter'. It wasn't smart. but it wasn't dreadful either, in the circumstances. The women in the group probably laughed. You'll notice the actual clip appeared very fast and only once, that I saw. In the correct meaning of the word 'slut', most of us girls (and guys) qualify at some time or other. I do have a problem with whether or not Bloom knew the difference between 'slut' and 'whore'. Maybe that's really where the UKIP gang had the inner knowledge, and needed to cut their ties asap.

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Cynthia Buell Thomas

Tue 1st Oct 2013 12:22

I do like work that seems to be 'unlinked' or 'linked wherever the reader chooses to connect'. This is not an easy poem, but it does have a certain dynamism. 'square' and 'cask' certainly got my attention, as they seem utterly the opposite. And the ending is quite profound.

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Tue 1st Oct 2013 11:33

beautiful poem

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Starfish

Tue 1st Oct 2013 10:23

Hi
My neighbours cat disappeared and was found much later curled in a ball under the stairs dead. I think they find a quiet place when they are ill. Fortunately, the field mouse was a figment of my imagination.

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Vik

Tue 1st Oct 2013 10:20

I celebrated International Translation Day yesterday by trying a Spanish version of Fran’s poem! My Spanish isn't really up to the task of rhyming - but I had a go. I managed it OK a coupla times (usually by sacrificing the metre, ha) but the rest of the time I settled for a sort of vague assonance :-)

Things I noticed:
Line 3 – translated word-for-word, it woulda been really long; so I found a way to shorten it that I think works OK (Literally, “I came home; his empty wardrobe left me stunned”)

Line 8 – I coulda used the more normal verb “amancebarse” (to live together), but I think “vivir en concubinato” has the same florid, slightly tongue-in-cheek flavour of “live in sin”.

The “he picks his nose” line – I so liked the snappy internal rhyme of “nose/clothes” that I had to try and get a rhyme in - so I had to change the meaning.“Marear la perdiz”– literally “to make the partridge dizzy”– is a funny idiom that means a combination of mucking others around, stalling/time-wasting when you should be doing something important, and not getting to the point or getting on with stuff. It's a bit of a stretch but hey, I tried :-)

Last line – I completely ignored the “bloody”, cos swearing in another language is the quickest way to sound silly (well OK maybe not the quickest, but…) I'd love to know what someone with decent Spanish would say for this.
vik x

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Greg Freeman

Tue 1st Oct 2013 08:42

The Mail has always been Britain's nastiest newspaper, ever since it backed Oswald Mosley in the 1930s. Why they've now decided to smear Ed Miliband's dad, God only knows. Shame on Waitrose for giving it away at the checkout (Apologies to the checkout staff for my reaction when they've offered it to me!)

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Steve Higgins

Tue 1st Oct 2013 07:35

Hey Starfish,
The cat poem is a true story. Came home from work one day and was making a cuppa, looking out through the kitchen window onto the street. Our neighbours cat had a stretch, had a good look around and went to sleep under their tree. Later on various screams and tears were heard and I asked next door what was going on and they said the lady opposite came home and found her cat dead curled up under the tree. I prefer to think, romantically perhaps, that the cat knew the end was nigh and took his leave of life in a calm feline way. Not a bad way to go. Much better than the poor old field mouse . . .
Steve

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M.C. Newberry

Tue 1st Oct 2013 00:43

Among my collection of vinyl LPs, I have a boxed set called "Poetry For Pleasure" (Concert
Hall Record Club) which contains an incomparable version of "Dover Beach" read by
Stephen Murray - and "Adlestrop" read by Dame
Flora Robson. Other front rank readers include Michael Redgrave, Marius Goring, Jill
Balcon and John Neville.
Anyone knowing the quality they represent will
know how well they do their job with material that ranges from Thomas Wyatt to W.B.Yeats. Wonderful stuff from nearly fifty years ago that is as fresh and fine today as it ever was. Only Richard Burton is anywhere near when
it comes to reading great poetry.
Finally - I have emailed Tim Dee about the poems
featured and the programme in general. I was
minded to include the question:
Where will future requests for today's poetry come
from if poets are omitted by fashion and passing
fad that leaves little that is truly MEMORABLE?

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M.C. Newberry

Tue 1st Oct 2013 00:14

Every worthwhile writer borrows. It is amazing how inspiration can be encouraged by the most(I nearly tapped in "moist"!) unlikely places. I found myself undergoing an MRI scan earlier during which I was placed in something resembling a torpedo tube for 40 minutes and occupied the time making up songs to the sounds of the various weird noises the machine emitted. Don't see a hit in any of them, though!! :-)
Cheers - and thanks, as always, for the lift your work provides. Such a pleasant change to be positive and mean it when knowing of the fractious precious types on WOL who trot out insults like "troll" at the drop of a hat when the comments are not the 100% approbation they seek. Your latest piece on the Daily Mail was interesting, but that newspaper is a byword for emotive stuff that plays to those who think the country has gone to the dogs since WW2. The BBC can't let a week go by without featuring the title in one of its programmes...and not appreciatively! Check "Mock The Week" and "Have I Got News For You", as well as some dramas of late. What fun!!!

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Harry O'Neill

Mon 30th Sep 2013 23:41


Sorry Ray,
It was just my thickness and the superb sexiness of that first stanza.

I just couldn`t believe that any woman who had tilted her `weight` into the warming cup of those `stilling` palms and had four thousand trips to Paradise would ever dream of going anywhere else. :)

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Starfish

Mon 30th Sep 2013 23:32

Awww... I like this. I like the way it is written, the message and I like cats!

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Starfish

Mon 30th Sep 2013 23:27

Hello John
Re: Cottage Sleaze, I was referring to an earlier comment. Certainly, a beautifully written piece, though. Starfish.

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Mon 30th Sep 2013 23:26

Brilliant, angry, plain; it travels perfectly across the sea.

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Mon 30th Sep 2013 23:21

Deeply beautiful impressionism

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John Coopey

Mon 30th Sep 2013 22:51

Hello Starfish,
When I wrote "Cottage Sleaze" the word "beautiful" didn't seem the most apt description! You will gather that not all the lines are my own. (And, No, I did not do a lot of research for this).

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John Coopey

Mon 30th Sep 2013 22:48

Hello Steve,
Many thanks for your kind thoughts on "Cottage Sleaze".

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John Coopey

Mon 30th Sep 2013 22:47

Hello MC,
Glad you enjoyed "Cottage Sleaze". I have to confess that some of the lines were not entirely my own!

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