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Andy N

Thu 28th Nov 2013 12:51

enjoyed this, ian in particlar the first stanza but a strong piece all round

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Andy N

Thu 28th Nov 2013 12:50

like the short sharp lines here, mike. flow really well..

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Andy N

Thu 28th Nov 2013 12:50

not sure if cute is the right word here but i like this..

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Ged Thompson

Wed 27th Nov 2013 22:47

Thanks for the comments of 'And then the heart does flutter'

Also

I love you lots like Jelly Tots XXXX

See you on the 5TH xxx

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Steve Smith

Wed 27th Nov 2013 21:00

fearsomely cogent prose, Isobel!Awestruck.

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Freda Davis

Wed 27th Nov 2013 20:19

Great work Steve,
Spoken to the tune of 'a whiter shade of Grey' I surmise.

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Steve Higgins

Wed 27th Nov 2013 20:06

Hi Ged,
Thanks for looking in on my stuff and much appreciate your enthusiastic comments for 'Bigger Man Than Me'
All the best,
Steve

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Steve Higgins

Wed 27th Nov 2013 19:45

MC, here's something from a JFK newsletter I Get;
NSAM263;Getting out of Vietnam — On Oct. 11, 1963, Kennedy signed National Security Action Memorandum 263. This ordered a withdrawal of 1,000 troops out of roughly 16,000 Americans stationed in Vietnam by the end of 1963, with the complete withdrawal by the end of 1965.

NSAM 273: Mysterious timing — Signed on Nov. 26, 1963, this was the first National Security Action Memorandum on Vietnam under President Lyndon Johnson. NSAM 273 effectively overturned Kennedy's NSAM 263 and ordered the planning of increased activity in Vietnam. The memorandum also authorized open-ended covert operations against North Vietnam. This, in turn, led to the Gulf of Tonkin incident, which President Johnson used to obtain congressional authorization for a drastic escalation of the war. The draft of NSAM 273 was dated Nov. 21, 1963, the day before the assassination; however, Kennedy had not ordered its creation and did not see it. Newly sworn-in President Johnson signed 273 on Nov. 26, the day after Kennedy was buried.

As you know, this is a subject thats we could go on talking about forever. Interesting stuff though . .

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Isobel

Wed 27th Nov 2013 18:59

I like this Ged - there are some lovely parts to it. I love the idea of falling to grace - it's beautiful. x

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M.C. Newberry

Wed 27th Nov 2013 17:00

Thanks for the comment Steve.
I always respect what JC has to say & wonder if
the "16000" advisers he has mentioned were, in
fact, the 16000 troops that were in Vietnam.
You are right. LBJ escalated the war. He had
a very strong connection with vested interests
and Eisenhower was probably using his own
experience as a top army general as well as president when he warned against the might of
the military/industrial complex in that hugely
wealthy but often corruptly administered country, with some states - like LBJ's Texas -
as big and rich as some foreign countries.

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Gray Nicholls

Wed 27th Nov 2013 13:00

thanks phillip. i am a little dyslexic and you are right. will get onto this when i can but thanks again.

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Wed 27th Nov 2013 12:01

we enjoyed this too Ian.We refer you to a similar poem by us,called,'By horizons divided'.


Cheers chum.xx

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Ged Thompson

Wed 27th Nov 2013 02:34

I love this

No need to analyse it, it is, what it is, a piece of writing from the heart

Well done

Brilliant poem!!!!!

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Ged Thompson

Wed 27th Nov 2013 02:24

Well done Shirley XXXX

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Tue 26th Nov 2013 22:51

Awww Jade!so very sorry for late reply to your comments on 'Mater'please accept my apologies.

Thanks very much.x

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Tue 26th Nov 2013 22:46

good poem young man!x

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Tue 26th Nov 2013 22:29

I hope I never have to pass through here in me Lamborghini-what?-and come out tuther side wiv no wheels? which number do you live at Ian?is the 'ouse with the dirty 'coitunz? great and grim tale-told so very very well-dont panic! I can wait till the cows cum 'ome for yer response!(but ta chuck for the apollywollogy on me profile page.)


haha-x

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Ray Miller

Tue 26th Nov 2013 22:05

Thanks all. What has happened in the world of cricket? More football manager-speak and though it wasn't initially my intention, I began to think about Gary Speed.

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Steve Higgins

Tue 26th Nov 2013 19:56

Despite what John Coopey says JFK was about to withdraw his advisors from Vietnam. It was LBJ who escalated the conflict! Quite a few Kennedy poems on WOL and I've commented on Simon Austens 'Kennedy' so I won't go on and on here except to say, nice work MC,
Steve

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Steve Higgins

Tue 26th Nov 2013 19:50

Hi Starfish, Thanks for looking in on my latest piece,
Steve

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Steve Higgins

Tue 26th Nov 2013 19:49

Dave,
thanks for looking in on 'A Bigger man Than me'. best wishes, Steve

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Steve Higgins

Tue 26th Nov 2013 19:47

As this is a poetry blog we really should be discussing poetry not history but here's my view for what it's worth;
Ian, if you want to read about the JFK assassination, why not choose a classic? ‘Rush to Judgement’ by Mark Lane or ‘Six Seconds in Dallas’ by Josiah Thompson or even ‘Death of a President’ by William Manchester?
I could go on forever and pick up on various minor points that themselves alone make it unlikely that Oswald shot Kennedy like the rifle for instance; The FBI tested the weapon and found that the telescopic sight was not aligned, on further investigation they found that the sight could not be aligned at all, so they added metal shims to make the sight align. It was tested fired in an orientation not available to Oswald and they still couldn't match his shooting as MC mentions below.
Anyway, excellent poem Simon, powerful and thought provoking!
Steve

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John Coopey

Tue 26th Nov 2013 19:30

I suspect that DNA testing would show very little Anglo-Saxon traces in any of us, MC, which, personally, is not an issue for me. My own name is said to be of Dutch origin.
With regard to the Northumberland castles, we hope to take a caravan holiday there next year.
And another thing - whilst it is historic dross don't you just love "The Vikings" with Kirk Douglas and Tony Curtis? A real romp even though the Northumbrian castle of Saxon King Aelle was filmed in Brittany.

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Isobel

Tue 26th Nov 2013 16:06

Glad you enjoyed it Ray - but no - it's not meant to be racist - just a gentle poke at the Hispanics.

And to answer your question - no - I've never been manhandled by any other race. Someone did once offer to buy me for a case of whisky - but when I found out that they planned to send it to my father, I declined ;)





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M.C. Newberry

Tue 26th Nov 2013 15:39

IW looks to this establishment lawyer's book as his reference but almost as soon as the shock
of the original event wore off, it became
doubtful that Oswald could have acted alone,
based in so many glaring discrepancies. But if
you were a trusting 1960s American, what would you
prefer to believe - that your president was killed
by a nutter, or that powerful influential elements
wanted him dead and would use that power to cover
it up? No prizes for the answer! In the Hughes-
Wilson book just published - on the subject of
who fired, the author writes:
"Gunnery Sergeant Hancock, an ex-senior instructor at the USMC Sniper School at
Quantico - with 93 kills in Vietnam -(confirms)
"We have constructed the whole thing: angle,
range, moving target, time limit, obstacles,
everything...but we couldn't duplicate what the Warren Commission said Oswald did."
And that's one vital aspect of all that has
become known since. How about the knowledge
that LBJ ( a whisper away from the presidency)
was under investigation for matters that could
have seen him jailed - and was in line to be
dropped from JFK's ticket in the 1965 election?
Personally, I find this LONG-DISTANCE killing
completely contrary to the behaviour of lone nut/obsessives. History shows that all OTHER
presidential murders/ attempts have been CLOSE
RANGE as befits the mindset of the deranged
hate-filled individual. Another reason perhaps
to see the murder of JFK as something much more complex than one man with a rifle unfit for the job.
We may never know the complete truth but it's a
healthy sign that we are less trusting now
about the deeds and the deceit committed by those in power when they think they can "get
away with it".
Cheers.




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Ray Miller

Tue 26th Nov 2013 15:02

Enjoyed the poem. Is it just a Mediterranean thing? I bet UKIP would love this!

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Ray Miller

Tue 26th Nov 2013 14:48

Enjoyed. The 2nd stanza works well, the piece repetition.

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M.C. Newberry

Tue 26th Nov 2013 14:27

A comment on another's post mentioned that I lost
my own father when I was five. You have your grief but you also have your years with him.
Try to be positive and give thanks for what they
gave you (both of you!).

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M.C. Newberry

Tue 26th Nov 2013 14:24

A stimulating very personal "tour" through London
- a place I've known since I came here to work
in 1960. I enjoyed the various comments about
its parts - and could have added a few of my own!
I still live here after retirement: in Westminster
as it happens, JM. I'll forgive your opinion
about it, happily assuming you refer to the
politicians down the road!

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M.C. Newberry

Tue 26th Nov 2013 14:14

Will new centuries see the Saxon blood make
way for the offspring (in their multitudes)
of the modern "invasion" from contemporary hordes?
Weird - or should that be "Wyrd"?
On a personal note, I still have a number of pics.
taken years ago on a memorable visit to Lindisfarne,
Bamburgh and Dunstanburgh. Wonderful open (and
very bracing!) territory that easily evokes the
images of those feared visitors from across the
North Sea.

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M.C. Newberry

Tue 26th Nov 2013 14:08

My own father died when I was five and I never
knew him - but I can understand the feelings
set out so strongly in this piece and I enjoyed
it for its own sake.

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M.C. Newberry

Tue 26th Nov 2013 13:51

An extraordinarily affecting essay about a visit
to that country of "a fine madness". The style
is difficult to follow at first but then it
seems to fall into place in the context of the
piece when emotions and a sense of place take
precedence and we are treated to what is almost
"a running commentary of the heart" - with the
feel of the power of being torn between two
worlds: so close, yet so far apart in many ways.
There are some infidelities in spelling and the like but the overall effect overrides those and this post bears repeated reading.

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John Coopey

Tue 26th Nov 2013 13:26

No charge for the tutorial, Starfish.

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Kenneth Eaton-Dykes

Tue 26th Nov 2013 10:52

Thanks S.F. for your very kind remarks.
I don't like to use my leisure time being serious

Cheers K.E.D.

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Starfish

Tue 26th Nov 2013 10:43

I really enjoyed this. Thank you for the added explanation of terms used. See, I said WOL was an education.

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Starfish

Tue 26th Nov 2013 10:34

Very poignant tribute to your father. Lovely.

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John Coopey

Tue 26th Nov 2013 10:02

Comatose and Dave - Many thanks for your kind comments.
As for your wife having a large amount of Viking in her - how lucky for the both of you!

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Margaret Holbrook

Tue 26th Nov 2013 09:52

Sad, but very, very powerful.

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Dave Bradley

Tue 26th Nov 2013 08:46

As Izz says, great analogies for just losing it. It holds out the hovering threat that it could happen to any of us and leaves the reader wondering what it could be like (or possibly uncomfortably reminded of what it was like)

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Dave Bradley

Tue 26th Nov 2013 08:43

I really like this Steve. It stands well in the blogs next to Shirley's poem. Two people writing about how much their dads meant to them - and writing very well.

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Dave Bradley

Tue 26th Nov 2013 08:40

Some poems seem to punch the reader in the stomach and this is one. So few words about something so massive, but so effective.

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Dave Bradley

Tue 26th Nov 2013 08:38

Excellent, John. Captures the historical reality well. I was only reading recently about how the monks took Cuthbert's body away from Lindisfarne because of the raids, which terrorised people for years.

PS I married a Yorkshirewoman and am sure she has some Viking in her.

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Tue 26th Nov 2013 04:56

I really enjoyed reading this.

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Shirley Smothers

Tue 26th Nov 2013 00:41

Hi Nigel,

Thank you for your comments on my poem "Happiness". This time of year is especially difficult. The fourth anniversary of my Fathers death is Dec.9.

Thank You once again,
Shirley

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Shirley Smothers

Tue 26th Nov 2013 00:37

Hello M.C.

Thank you for your comments/poem for my poem "Happiness?". This time of year is especially difficult. The fourth anniversary of my Fathers death is Dec. 9. Your comments have helped.

Thanks,
Shirley

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Mon 25th Nov 2013 21:47

Thanks for explanation,we all been on the internet and looking in dictionary's we couldn't find it !

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Ged Thompson

Mon 25th Nov 2013 20:58

Hello love, just stumbled on one of your poems and added comment, WELL DONE X

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Ged Thompson

Mon 25th Nov 2013 20:50

Very good mate

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John Coopey

Mon 25th Nov 2013 20:01

Quip coming, Ian:
Large portion, you say? Then it's certainly not mine. (Boom, boom)

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Ian Whiteley

Mon 25th Nov 2013 19:54

good poem Simon - full of telling images
as for the conspiracy theorists (and MC knows my position on this) you can read as many money making theorist books as you like - but it's like the Jack the Ripper mythos - the simplest answer is probably the one that's right - in the case of the Ripper it's most likely to have been done by a 'nobody' who died before he could decide to stop - in the case of Kennedy it's the lone gun man - read 'four days in November' by Vincent Bugliosi for a more realistic - less sensational - viewpoint (it's his account that is used in the current film 'Parkland')this highly respected and much published author states 'Oswald did it and he acted alone'

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