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Lynn Dye

Wed 5th Sep 2012 09:29

I enjoyed this, Larisa - it's great to have pride in your hometown, and from all I have seen, it is a beautiful city. I think this would make a good song :-) xx

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Greg Freeman

Wed 5th Sep 2012 08:03

Men do talk about football instead of really talking, don't they? As the new season starts I'm trying hard to cut down. I wondered about losing the words "to some meaningful achievement", then read it again, and realised you do need it, for the rhythm as well as the meaning. The first two stanzas work particularly well, I think.

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Greg Freeman

Wed 5th Sep 2012 07:58

You hit the mark, MC. But I sometimes worry about that "plague on all their houses" thing. You see people interviewed in the street who rubbish all politicians, and you can tell they haven't bothered to think about it in depth at all. I'm not saying that's the case with you, of course!

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Greg Freeman

Wed 5th Sep 2012 07:55

This is very satisfying to read, Laura - condensed, tight and effective language, and with a story to tell.

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Greg Freeman

Wed 5th Sep 2012 07:50

Has a fantastic, nightmarish quality to it. I'm thinking John Wyndham. A great idea, Ann

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Jeff Dawson

Wed 5th Sep 2012 06:56

Thanks Tracey, glad you liked it & its given the imagery & feelings that I wanted, There's still a lot of mills in Bolton, but there were around 200 at one time which I think is amazing & of course a different way of life X

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Tue 4th Sep 2012 23:17

We think,tis your best one yet Lynn-
really nice.xx

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tracey bucknell

Tue 4th Sep 2012 22:25

i really enjoyed your poem jeff :)
the monumental buildings that remain to symbolize a way of life & a ethic that's forgot,stand majestic to remind us who we are....
beautiful, nostalgic and heartfelt :)X

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Isobel

Tue 4th Sep 2012 22:16

Thanks for your comments everyone. I'm glad if this struck a chord.

Dave - On the walk we took (last January), the landscape towards Aspull was still pretty bleak - flat and dreary looking - abnormally shaped. The trees around the small flashes were dead and bent over the water, much like a scrum. It reminded me of an alien landscape or something from a Dali painting.

Harry - thanks for picking up on that contrast. I think when you have kids of your own you are more keenly aware of human suffering - particularly for children. I wrote this for a competition so I bothered to read up on working conditions. I learnt about them as a child in our history lessons but the full enormity of their suffering didn't really register then. I actually found myself getting very upset just thinking about how their lives must have been.

Steve - I'm glad you are coming round to performance poetry :) It IS more about entertainment. My mum was a singer round the clubs and I grew up watching her reach out to an audience through music. The first famous live performer I ever saw was Shirley Bassey. Perhaps us performance poets are all failed musicians :)

Thanks for enjoying Laura - and Julian/John - if I get chance, I might try to edit some of the rough spots - or I might just try to write something else :)

Winston - :-P

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Dave Carr

Tue 4th Sep 2012 22:02

Just found this. Very funny. Dave

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David Subacchi

Tue 4th Sep 2012 21:55

Thank you Graham. I am delighted you liked the poem and I hope others will too.

Kind regards

David

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Dave Carr

Tue 4th Sep 2012 21:51

I can remember how black the landscape used to be and how dismal it was. The poem takes me back and sums up the mood of the time. Some good images. Dave

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Poets Corner

Tue 4th Sep 2012 21:29

Thank You Yvonne...don't forget you can now submit Poems to be featured on 'Poets Corner' thus giving more coverage for your Poetry and creating greater name awareness for you.
It is alo my intention to publish all the selected Poems in my PC Poetry Accomplices' booklet next year!
So I have now featured poems from - Joy France Laura Taylor and David Subbacchi...just Tag your poem with a 'PC' or private message me and let me know you are submitting a poem.
Thanks - Graham Robinson/Poets Corner.

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Dave Carr

Tue 4th Sep 2012 21:17

Ha! Not much to choose. Nice one.

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Dave Carr

Tue 4th Sep 2012 21:10

Great stuff - as usual. I like the squat stained stripey lumpen dough - perfect description. Imagine lugging that up the stairs! Also the conception theme is excellent. Thanks for comment on Compy Dompy too. Late but I've been v busy. Dave

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Tue 4th Sep 2012 21:07

Well done Mrs B.
and well deserved.xx

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Tue 4th Sep 2012 21:02

Its our place to thank you Mike
not the tuther way round
for this brilliant piece of work.

The quality of your writing
never diminishes.

Our best regards.xx

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Poets Corner

Tue 4th Sep 2012 20:54

Hi David...I am pleased to inform you and all other Poets that your above poem 'Edge Of Town' has been selected as one of my featured poems of the month and will appear on 'Poets Corner' with immediate effect.

Thanks David and keep writing brilliant poems!

My Bests Graham

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John F Keane

Tue 4th Sep 2012 17:01

Protests are pointless.

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Harry O'Neill

Tue 4th Sep 2012 16:52


Excellent deeply felt poem Isobel, particularly
the contrast with the kids of today. The second and third `scenery` stanzas set the mood bleakly. (`stark` is dead right).

The airy spread of the kids climbing the trees is also a powerfully poetic contrastive image against the constriction of the ones in the mines.

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Laura Taylor

Tue 4th Sep 2012 16:38

I absolutely love the storytelling idea in here - puts me in mind of The Lost Boys. I get the feeling that you were lying in bed listening to the gulls, and did that narrative weaving that we all constantly do :)

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Laura Taylor

Tue 4th Sep 2012 16:28

I've heard Isobel do this aloud at the Tudor and loved it

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M.C. Newberry

Tue 4th Sep 2012 14:40

Sustained fun that we can all identify with.
Especially those who go "private"! I once
uploaded a poem "No One Likes A Dentist" so I
sympathise with the content.

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John Aikman

Tue 4th Sep 2012 14:09

Lovely. I tried to change a few words in my head, especially the 'stand forlorn' and 'for they do not..' which tweaked my anti-cliche, anti-archaiscism beeble boppers a bit, but in the end I decided it was...just lovely as it is.

Thank you.

: )

Jx

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Julian (Admin)

Tue 4th Sep 2012 14:05

Let's do a demo! write to your MP. Person the barricades. Or a mass sulk outside the council offices?

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Laura Taylor

Tue 4th Sep 2012 13:55

Hello again :) Shy my arse ;p Good to see you again.

Re 'Purple' - I'm sorry you bristled on the dementia line. It is not intended to offend, obviously. My maternal grandmother died of Alzheimer's after 10 years of suffering with it, so it's always been there in my mind. I've long thought that I'd end up with it, so to pretend to have it in order to fund some luxury by stealing from the corporates just tickled me a bit and cheers me up about it. It still is a genuine plan too - I know I will be living in poverty if I get to pensionable age, I have no assets, I'll never pay the mortgage off, and I come from a long line of poor people, so this seems like a nicely rebellious act for when I'm old and vulnerable.

Yep, you were spot-on re 'homegrown green' ;)



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Julian (Admin)

Tue 4th Sep 2012 13:46

This is a delight to read, Isobel, thanks to the rhyme and its rhythm, though I cannot get the vid to work, perhaps my ancient computer at fault.
And I agree with John that a really good edit could render it a damn fine poem. For my taste, it is overwritten (i.e. not yet edited down to its essentials). That is to say, if you remove the words that add nothing to its sound nor its sense, to leave denser text, ommitting many of the words 'the', would be a grand start, as you have in the excellent, spare line:
of coal truck full to brim
E.g.:
In our fathers' footsteps
the restoration trail
wooded hill and wetland
From Aspull to Haigh

or similar.

I love the wind and sky and draglines and it is a superb idea, too, this contrasting your kids' above-the-ground freedom with the lot of the mine children. Excellent stuff.

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Nigel Astell

Tue 4th Sep 2012 12:46

Tide in or out
Only shipwrecked love
Can bring those
Salty kisses back.

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Cynthia Buell Thomas

Tue 4th Sep 2012 12:22

What kind of over-70's do you see in your daily sphere! I agree that old age can look very funny, and privileged even. This poem covers a lot of ground, with humour ... a wry twist on 'Do not go gentle... etc. etc.'
But I bristled over the 'fake dementia' image; I find it hard to see that state as a joke; old age and dementia are not synonymous. The 'homegrown green' is hilarious (presuming 'weed' is intended.) Blame the Olympics... purple/aubergine will now be even more invasive everywhere. It no longer flags a 'free spirit' of elderly years.

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Nigel Astell

Tue 4th Sep 2012 12:20

In the Manchester Evening News on Saturday
Stockport Council are looking at ways to save money this is one of them.

Nothing has been decided yet but sometimes they do this to see what the responce is from the general public.

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Cynthia Buell Thomas

Tue 4th Sep 2012 11:49

Laura, thanks for noticing that I've been a bit 'absent'. It has been a busy summer. You are really striding forward now. I must try to be a bit more 'entry active' with so many opportunities to be chosen for publication. Basically, I think I'm shy. Would you believe it! Maybe it's lazy. But I turned down one opportunity because I didn't like the script size offered. And isn't that the opposite of shy! What IS the definition of schizo? :)

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Ann Foxglove

Tue 4th Sep 2012 11:23

That's St Ives in Cornwall btw.

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Tue 4th Sep 2012 01:59

Dear John

I love the rhythm and rhyming. and I thought it well summed up the sides to Johnny; scary, nasty and soft,loving.

Johnny is alive and kicking. He still does the occasional gig; the last one was on the harbour wall at Dunbar in August. Its taken 4 years of nagging but he's been persuaded to publish via iliffe independent (aye aye?) iliffe.org.uk and his son put a pop mewsick video on utube.



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winston plowes

Tue 4th Sep 2012 00:57

:-P

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Greg Freeman

Mon 3rd Sep 2012 22:10

Cheers, Steve. A four-day coach tour hardly does it justice, but we saw a lot.

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Isobel

Mon 3rd Sep 2012 16:27

I wouldn't knock yourself Steve - there are enough others around to do that :)

We all have our own unique style. A lot of stuff you read on here comes across much better in performance - that doesn't make it a strictly performance poetry site though.

I wouldn't see your poetry as being strictly about the self either. You just chose a different route to write about some of the same themes that interest me - alienation, failure - and you do so in a very original way.

By input, perhaps you are talking about critique - in which case - yes - sometimes you have to hear a poem to be able to react to it fully.

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Karen Robinson

Mon 3rd Sep 2012 16:23

Thank you for the nice comments.

I have a recording of me reading The Dentist which I will upload.

I haven't got used to finding my way round this site yet.

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Yvonne Brunton

Mon 3rd Sep 2012 00:50

Nice one Hugh.Love the ending!
Steve Womack sing a great 'Dear Marge'-type song.

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Indigo

Mon 3rd Sep 2012 00:49

Thank you. I do love it when J does that. She's lovely :)

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Yvonne Brunton

Mon 3rd Sep 2012 00:42

Strong images and you evoke powerful emotions here, Steve. I especially like the last two lines and the idea that not all memories were of good things.

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Yvonne Brunton

Mon 3rd Sep 2012 00:38

so true! Nice one.

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Paul Sands

Mon 3rd Sep 2012 00:37

it is of course true to an extent, though I can't vouch for how your atoms may be assembled in the future, who knows maybe certain ones remain chained together after all most of the universe is unseen

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Yvonne Brunton

Mon 3rd Sep 2012 00:36

so romantic.

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Yvonne Brunton

Mon 3rd Sep 2012 00:34

I like this concept.

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Yvonne Brunton

Mon 3rd Sep 2012 00:27

HI Greg,
Thanks for you congratulations on my WOL poem winning the comp. it was so unexpected. XX

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Yvonne Brunton

Mon 3rd Sep 2012 00:21

Thanks, Isobel for you kind comments on my WOL win '100 metres' and on 'us nolympics' xx

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Isobel

Sun 2nd Sep 2012 22:18

I need a sign for tongue sticking out :)--

If I used just 'moaned' I would have to say 'moaned about' and that sounds most unpoetic.

Stark is not a word that brings me shame either - though it is perhaps more fun when used with naked :)

I like the lines you pointed out. The line I like least is 'this our heritage of pain' - it seems contrived.

This is yet another poem where I set out to do non-rhyming and ended up rhyming.

I don't see any genius in here at all - just a lot of humanity. It's a less subtle, more emotive version of Charlotte Henson's mill poem. I like poems that can look beyond the self. Sometimes we take for granted simple pleasures - like being able to take a walk on a Sunday with moaning/bemoaning children :)

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Poets Corner

Sun 2nd Sep 2012 21:49

Could also be your - Carburettor...Alternator..or...Flux Capacitator..

or could be a blockage in your fuel line...that's a swine
that is...

Nice Poem...
Please feel free to submit one for Entry to me at PC...that's Poets Corner as am looking for 2 to 4 quality submissions each month....to eventually go in to my 'Poets Corner Accomplices' anthology (at small cost to the poet)...copyright protected.
Just do your 'poetry blog' and Tag to 'PC' I will pick it up ok? (this applies to all Poets - thanks)
Kind regards - Graham

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Poets Corner

Sun 2nd Sep 2012 21:35

Hi Paul....
I love the clarity of this poem...the words and phrases are quite beautiful...they flow...like ' A River'...does...
'..the bubbling surface is equally policed'...
A typo or two...but still a lovely poem.

I would like you to 'tag the poem to 'PC'...that's my Poets Corner facebook page so that I can include it in September entries.
Basically I am featuring between 2 to 4 poems per month...to create and promote a Poet's Poetry..and then at the end of 12 months I will produce a Poets Corner Accomplices (anthology)...at very small cost to the Poet.

Thus promoting WOL...The Poet..Their Poetry and Poets Corner...let me know if you wish to proceed...grahamrobinson73@gmail.com or via PC private chat message...Thanks and Well Done!
Graham.

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John Aikman

Sun 2nd Sep 2012 20:55

It seems half a poem half a lyric, to me. The first half is a (good) folk song and the second half a (good) poem.

You already know I'm going to hate the word 'bemoaned'. When was the last time your kids bemoaned anything? I'm sure they moan, but 'bemoan'? : )

Stark reminder? Give me a rest.

Is it a song...or a poem?

'cut free, till they were breath and wind and sky

and I


left grounded there....'


'iniquities of time

and all the lifelines lost to draglines

in girdle, harness , chain...'

Fucking genius!

You need an editor!

: )

Jx

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