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Julian (Admin)

Wed 13th Oct 2010 13:27

As I rarely venture into these pages, I am not sure if I shall be as welcome here as death's potential arrival. But I am moved to comment by a sort of recognition of what this piece refers to.
Loved it, reminiscent of the monologue that informed a short film I had some small success with.
I love the way the poem seems itself as suppressed as the emotions it describes, with its quietness of recriminations, the unsaidedness of words and thoughts, and the static-though-ready-for-action tears.
If it were me (and it isn't, but...)I would consider removing one or two (what appear to me to be - personal opinion) superfluous words, so as to increase the sense of suppression. e.g. the word 'filled' after 'head'. And:
"eyes distant,
gazing at the horizon."
contains some duplication that could be removed.
Similarly the words "when she comes" seem perhaps superfluous: can't be made welcome if not here yet. in fact, the last couple of lines could be tightened, something like:
Wintery death, though dragging her heels,
will be made welcome.
Or not?
Not criticism, just discussion. Made me think. Thanks.

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Ann Foxglove

Wed 13th Oct 2010 13:00

Very powerful and an accurate portrayal of that awful, botton falling out of your world feeling.
"Chests suffused with unsaid words"
particularly good. Not sure about the last line, does not sit quite right for me, though I agree you need a line there. xx

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Ray Miller

Wed 13th Oct 2010 11:43

I remember John White. Was he actually called The Ghost? I recall Alex Young of Everton was The Ghost also. Spirited times.I'm not so sure it's a good idea likening him to other players. Enjoyed though.

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kath hewitt

Wed 13th Oct 2010 11:31

hi, thought i may as well give it a go, though i 'm not convinced i'm a good enough writer for stuff like this lol cheers for the head s up x

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Andy N

Wed 13th Oct 2010 10:37

Hi Kath - have a read and if interested - let me know...

http://www.writeoutloud.net/public/blogentry.php?blogentryid=16744

(I don't want to start forcing people into this as the choice is yours) x

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Elaine Booth

Wed 13th Oct 2010 10:34

Saw you perform this at the Tudor last month and I really enjoyed it.

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Elaine Booth

Wed 13th Oct 2010 10:31

Christine, just read Service Users. How much I appreciate what and how you have written it. Absolutley great - would love to see you perform it. I can really hear it - the poem is crying to be read out loud. x

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Elaine Booth

Wed 13th Oct 2010 10:25

Just read your poem of the month and very much appreciated it. Very fine work.

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Laura Taylor

Wed 13th Oct 2010 10:14

I really like this. Some stand-out lines for me:

"But she sighs and she weeps and unravels the wool" - and the entire middle stanza of part 2.

Do you know of Louise Bourgeois? You remind me of her in some ways. She's a bit of a hero for me :)

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Elaine Booth

Wed 13th Oct 2010 10:06

Thanks for your thoughtful comment last night. Still struggling with formal structures though & if there's too much struggle maybe it just ain't right! x

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kath hewitt

Wed 13th Oct 2010 10:00

Thanks again Andy foir commenting, i haven't seen any competition stuff but feel free to add mine if you think it apt enough :-) x

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Laura Taylor

Wed 13th Oct 2010 09:56

Mmm...VERY interesting in light of our recent discussions.

I especially like these lines:

"make us fight you,
shoulder to shoulder with each other"

and

"attack our freedom
and set us free"

Thought-provoking for sure

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Isobel

Wed 13th Oct 2010 08:48

Thanks for your kind comments all. Yes the first world war did come to mind as I wrote it.
I'd like to explain the third verse - I'm not sure if it is obvious enough.
Don't know if anyone has ever read the translation of 'Les Mains Sales' (Dirty Hands) by Sartre. In that book, he explores the fact that whether you are a hero or an anti hero depends on how history shakes out. That is what I was trying to express. When you strike out for personal freedom you have to tread on a lot of feelings, cause hurt, sometimes to those you love. Whether you were right to do that depends on how successfully they get over that. It is impossible to know when you make your decision. If all goes wrong your freedom could be a hollow victory and an act of supreme selfishness. The bullet to the head is what deserters got in the first world war.

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Andy N

Wed 13th Oct 2010 08:15

Hi Kath;

Another really good one with a strong ending. I was originally going to suggest too splitting the Insignificant into a separate line / stanza too (which you may want to try still) but I am relased as a separate line at the end of it - gives it a lot of power... x

Have you seen the Freedom competition I am running - this may fit into that??? x

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John Coopey

Wed 13th Oct 2010 00:35

Thanks for the comments Dave.
Good luck with the rest of the season - I suspect that Everton and Spurs will be vying for positions 5 - 8.

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Dave Bradley

Tue 12th Oct 2010 23:08

I did see John White play once but can remember little of it. His sudden and unusual death was a huge shock.
What a team Spurs had in 61. Enjoyed this John
Dave (Evertonian)

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Elaine Booth

Tue 12th Oct 2010 22:28

I very much liked these poems - rich in imagery and very lovely yet bittersweet.

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Elaine Booth

Tue 12th Oct 2010 22:22

I found your poem very touching and true. It's quite a pared down piece and that makes for a greater impact in what you are saying.

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John Coopey

Tue 12th Oct 2010 20:54

Greg
I don't remember seeing him play myself, but probably did as I used to catch them playing at the Sheffields and Forest from 62 onwards.
67 might hold bad memories for you but (2008 excepted) I think you've certainly had the upper hand for the past 15 years.

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Greg Freeman

Tue 12th Oct 2010 20:03

The pain of the 1967 Cup Final result will never leave me, John, but despite that as a football fan from that era I can relate to this. I never saw John White play but the thought of moving to another ground, and disturbing all those ghosts ... Chelsea have just unveiled a statue of Peter Osgood at Stamford Bridge, and I hope we never move.

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John Coopey

Tue 12th Oct 2010 19:26

Thanks Win
I suspect you're there on merit whereas I paid my way in!

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Ann Foxglove

Tue 12th Oct 2010 19:13

A poem that speaks to me, Freda. xx

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winston plowes

Tue 12th Oct 2010 19:11

Hi Freda, love the way you have handled this subject. Fantastic poem, Ay Hebden WOL last week it was the stand out piece of the night for me. Win X

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Ann Foxglove

Tue 12th Oct 2010 19:09

A poem that is both moving and also very clever. It took me a couple of reads to get the first world war references, I just saw it as a marriage breakdown first time round.

"I found the will to climb my walls,

trod on a thousand parts

that squished and screamed,"

was horrific and real. Well done Isobel. xx

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winston plowes

Tue 12th Oct 2010 19:09

Hi John, I believe congratulations are in order... We are both in the book "Along the Iron Veins" great stuff. Win x

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winston plowes

Tue 12th Oct 2010 18:11

Hi Laura

Thanks for your comments on the recent train one. Glad it works for you. I agree that to get the reader to fill in the blanks is a good thing generally but the writting still has to have quality and sometimes its easy to loose that when you know the context yourself. Win

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Ray Miller

Tue 12th Oct 2010 16:29

Thanks all. I don't know why I decided that stairs should speak like this.But who knows? Graham and I are both fans of A.E.Housman, I guess.The conceit is that both wife and stairs want a new carpet and conspire against husband. Regular stuff in our house.

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Laura Taylor

Tue 12th Oct 2010 15:55

Howdy

I was all set on going to the Tudor on Thursday, but have been dying of some flu/cold nonsense, and would rather not ruin me first attempt at reading aloud by accidentally gobbing on someone :(

Will see how I feel on Thursday, but if not this one, then I will deffo go to the next. Ta for the reminder anyhow - see you soon

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John Togher

Tue 12th Oct 2010 15:41

Hello Laura. It's the Wigan event at the Tudor this Thursday. Hope to see you there.

John

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Katie Haigh

Tue 12th Oct 2010 15:34

god I look so drunk, I wouldnt mind but I hadnt had a drop of booze lol.

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Laura Taylor

Tue 12th Oct 2010 15:26

Yet another one of yours that I really like ray :)

I too love the 'pidgin' language used. "peek up dresses make life brighter" - funny line!

I'm not really sure what that last line could mean...I like to ponder it though :)

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winston plowes

Tue 12th Oct 2010 15:01

Hi Dave, thanks for reading the train one :-).I have made some more comments on the blog page.

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winston plowes

Tue 12th Oct 2010 15:00

Hi Gus, thanks for reading the train one :-).I have made some more comments on the blog page. Win x

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winston plowes

Tue 12th Oct 2010 15:00

Hi Greg, thanks for reading the train one :-).I have made some more comments on the blog page. With all the cuttings and tunnels it really did feel like burrowing!

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winston plowes

Tue 12th Oct 2010 14:58

Hi Andy, thanks for reading the train one :-).I have made some more comments on the blog page. Yes I liked Gus's comment too. Don't think this one is a reading one somehow. Win x

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kath hewitt

Tue 12th Oct 2010 09:42

Thanks for your comment Andy, glad you liked the end, you're a hard guy to please when it comes to that ;-)x

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Andy N

Tue 12th Oct 2010 08:17

Hi Cynthia; - I see your tag here, so have now placed in the freedom comp... I'll add some comments once it is all over, but in the meantime good luck x

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Andy N

Tue 12th Oct 2010 08:16

for a short piece, Georgina - i think you say quite a lot for example i like 'mouth's as deep as a well' and I also like the finale line which i probably would have split up, but like the fact you didn't... but it's a good, good piece.. keep em coming! x

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Andy N

Tue 12th Oct 2010 08:16

for a short piece, Georgina - i think you say quite a lot for example i like 'mouth's as deep as a well' and I also like the finale line which i probably would have split up, but like the fact you didn't... but it's a good, good piece.. keep em coming! x

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Andy N

Tue 12th Oct 2010 08:14

thanks for the entry, ann.. i'll add my comments once it is all over, but in the meantime good luck x

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Andy N

Tue 12th Oct 2010 08:13

thanks for the entry, lynn.. i'll add my comments once it has all ended, but good luck! x

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Andy N

Tue 12th Oct 2010 08:12

i second Francine there, Kath.. I also like the use of rain throughout, but am pretty impressed by the i turn away at the end..

that made me shiver..

top stuff! x

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Andy N

Tue 12th Oct 2010 08:09

thanks for entering Isobel... I'll add my comments after the competition has ended, but just wanted to say thanks for entering and good luck...

Andy N x

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David Cooke

Tue 12th Oct 2010 08:05

Hi Cynthia thanks for your gracious comment on At Woody's Top.

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Isobel

Tue 12th Oct 2010 06:27

Could I just make it clear that Francine does indeed look like her extremely close up picture on WOL. Having had the pleasure of her company over the summer, I can assure you that she is as full bodied as the several glasses of merlot we consumed - and I don't mean she is fat either...

Sometimes one can be surprised to find that people are just who they say they are. I'm sure that somewhere out there - maybe in the wilds of Wales or France, there is an Ivor Bigun - though it's probably a certainty he's small.

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Francine

Tue 12th Oct 2010 05:25

Some interesting thoughts in this, Lynn...
I agree that Freedom, as with many other things, is a state of mind. Beautiful photo!

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Francine

Tue 12th Oct 2010 05:18

Glad to see you back Kath!
there is always something sad and somewhat elusive about your poetry that touches the heart. I like the use of rain drops/rain to perhaps express how clearly you see and feel...

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Francine

Tue 12th Oct 2010 05:02

This evokes some powerful emotions and imagery...
These are my favourite lines:

'Still I’m haunted by that journey,
the weight of tears that pulled me down,
the wait for truth that need be found,
absolution hanging on a spider’s thread'

xxx

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Dave Bradley

Tue 12th Oct 2010 00:34

This is a good poem Izz - I wouldn't tweak it much. It may well attract votes. More important, though, it speaks very very strongly of life experience - yours and others. It will resonate, for sure.

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Isobel

Mon 11th Oct 2010 23:07

Lovely to meet someone as un pc as me Banksy. Now - can everyone get on HIS case....

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