Francine, merci beaucoup...my 7 year old is learning french at school this term and she had a really good go at translating your comment! I was going to try to reply in french too, mais malheureusement je suis crap at it! :)
Ray, there is indeed a word 'agonal' it's a medical term used to describe shallow breathing interspersed with deep gasps observed when death is close...I used to be a veterinary nurse during the holidays from Uni many many years ago and the vet used it! (life's a school!)
heads should indeed be plural...silly me!
I'm gonna leave the hyphen out I think just to be a pita but the rest is all going to be digested and used when I redraft it(tonight when the children are asleep) thanks for the input.
Rach
x
Comment is about Death Throes (blog)
Original item by Rachel McGladdery
Hi Isobel
Thanks for commenting, nice to know it's been read lol x
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Is there such a word as agonal?Do your last breaths then become diagonal? step sitting needs a hyphen, maybe.Shouldn't head be plural also?I think you ought to end on "when she comes" giving it a line to itself, perhaps.There's a slight problem, I think, with "unsaid words" when you've already "uttered over coffee". You could solve it with a "the" before unsaid.Other than all that I thought it were very good!
Comment is about Death Throes (blog)
Original item by Rachel McGladdery
Love the sentiments in this - I'm a big fan of breaking rules, plans, and other constraining nonsense! :D
As I read this, within a few lines, I was singing it to an Irish jig - you could easily make this a song
Cracking lilting rhymes - int it about time you wrote something I can't stand? It's getting embarrassing this.
Comment is about If It Ain't Broke (Freedom) (blog)
I love the detailed feel and images in this, Freda.
It has an ethereal quality to it...
'Kiss me moonlight down from the sky
Beckon me the laughter of the stars'
'Mind spangling wonder'
Comment is about Trying to sleep, city night (blog)
Original item by Freda Davis
Except we are never really free from the memories, are we? And like it or not, the people we are now have been shaped by the ordeals we experienced. To be truly free from all that would be wonderful - though it might lead to less depth of character.
I love the sense of release you convey. Absolution is a biggie for me too. x
Comment is about Freedom (blog)
Original item by Kath Hewitt
Another wonderful poem from you, Kath, with lots of emotion and conviction - YAY FREEDOM! x
Comment is about Freedom (blog)
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On a clear day I can see about 30 of them from my back windows - only 14 today though!
Comment is about winging it! (blog)
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J'aime les idées, Rachel, même si c'est triste, mais je suis d'accord avec Julian pour que ça soit plus intense.
xxx
Comment is about Death Throes (blog)
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I actually really can't remember the right word...
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Ohhh, we have just this month got one of these...I say 'we' but I mean Garstang the town, I can see it from my kitchen window. Fabulous playful poem, just the antidote to all the NIMBYs writing up to the local paper saying it's a bunion* ! :)
*or whatever the right word is....
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Thank you both for your feedback. I agree with you both too that something needs to change with this. I really do like the suggestion of leaving out the repeated 'filled'.You have given me some food for thought , I feel quite inspired to go and make a few tweakings :)
x
Comment is about Death Throes (blog)
Original item by Rachel McGladdery
thank you for your kind comment on "service users" and glad to know I'm not the only one comes home to breakfast pots in the sink love your work it flows really well looking forward to seeingyou at the weekend x
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Wed 13th Oct 2010 13:27
As I rarely venture into these pages, I am not sure if I shall be as welcome here as death's potential arrival. But I am moved to comment by a sort of recognition of what this piece refers to.
Loved it, reminiscent of the monologue that informed a short film I had some small success with.
I love the way the poem seems itself as suppressed as the emotions it describes, with its quietness of recriminations, the unsaidedness of words and thoughts, and the static-though-ready-for-action tears.
If it were me (and it isn't, but...)I would consider removing one or two (what appear to me to be - personal opinion) superfluous words, so as to increase the sense of suppression. e.g. the word 'filled' after 'head'. And:
"eyes distant,
gazing at the horizon."
contains some duplication that could be removed.
Similarly the words "when she comes" seem perhaps superfluous: can't be made welcome if not here yet. in fact, the last couple of lines could be tightened, something like:
Wintery death, though dragging her heels,
will be made welcome.
Or not?
Not criticism, just discussion. Made me think. Thanks.
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Very powerful and an accurate portrayal of that awful, botton falling out of your world feeling.
"Chests suffused with unsaid words"
particularly good. Not sure about the last line, does not sit quite right for me, though I agree you need a line there. xx
Comment is about Death Throes (blog)
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I remember John White. Was he actually called The Ghost? I recall Alex Young of Everton was The Ghost also. Spirited times.I'm not so sure it's a good idea likening him to other players. Enjoyed though.
Comment is about The Ghost of White Hart lane (blog)
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hi, thought i may as well give it a go, though i 'm not convinced i'm a good enough writer for stuff like this lol cheers for the head s up x
Comment is about Andy N (poet profile)
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Hi Kath - have a read and if interested - let me know...
http://www.writeoutloud.net/public/blogentry.php?blogentryid=16744
(I don't want to start forcing people into this as the choice is yours) x
Comment is about Kath Hewitt (poet profile)
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Saw you perform this at the Tudor last month and I really enjoyed it.
Comment is about I SAT ON A PARK BENCH TODAY (blog)
Christine, just read Service Users. How much I appreciate what and how you have written it. Absolutley great - would love to see you perform it. I can really hear it - the poem is crying to be read out loud. x
Comment is about christine yates (poet profile)
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Just read your poem of the month and very much appreciated it. Very fine work.
Comment is about Anthony Emmerson (poet profile)
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I really like this. Some stand-out lines for me:
"But she sighs and she weeps and unravels the wool" - and the entire middle stanza of part 2.
Do you know of Louise Bourgeois? You remind me of her in some ways. She's a bit of a hero for me :)
Comment is about Songs of the Tree of Life (blog)
Original item by Freda Davis
Thanks for your thoughtful comment last night. Still struggling with formal structures though & if there's too much struggle maybe it just ain't right! x
Comment is about Isobel (poet profile)
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Thanks again Andy foir commenting, i haven't seen any competition stuff but feel free to add mine if you think it apt enough :-) x
Comment is about Andy N (poet profile)
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Mmm...VERY interesting in light of our recent discussions.
I especially like these lines:
"make us fight you,
shoulder to shoulder with each other"
and
"attack our freedom
and set us free"
Thought-provoking for sure
Comment is about Little green men (Freedom) (blog)
Original item by Dave Bradley
Thanks for your kind comments all. Yes the first world war did come to mind as I wrote it.
I'd like to explain the third verse - I'm not sure if it is obvious enough.
Don't know if anyone has ever read the translation of 'Les Mains Sales' (Dirty Hands) by Sartre. In that book, he explores the fact that whether you are a hero or an anti hero depends on how history shakes out. That is what I was trying to express. When you strike out for personal freedom you have to tread on a lot of feelings, cause hurt, sometimes to those you love. Whether you were right to do that depends on how successfully they get over that. It is impossible to know when you make your decision. If all goes wrong your freedom could be a hollow victory and an act of supreme selfishness. The bullet to the head is what deserters got in the first world war.
Comment is about Cry Freedom (blog)
Original item by Isobel
Hi Kath;
Another really good one with a strong ending. I was originally going to suggest too splitting the Insignificant into a separate line / stanza too (which you may want to try still) but I am relased as a separate line at the end of it - gives it a lot of power... x
Have you seen the Freedom competition I am running - this may fit into that??? x
Comment is about Freedom (blog)
Original item by Kath Hewitt
Thanks for the comments Dave.
Good luck with the rest of the season - I suspect that Everton and Spurs will be vying for positions 5 - 8.
Comment is about Dave Bradley (poet profile)
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I did see John White play once but can remember little of it. His sudden and unusual death was a huge shock.
What a team Spurs had in 61. Enjoyed this John
Dave (Evertonian)
Comment is about The Ghost of White Hart lane (blog)
Original item by John Coopey
I very much liked these poems - rich in imagery and very lovely yet bittersweet.
Comment is about Songs of the Tree of Life (blog)
Original item by Freda Davis
I found your poem very touching and true. It's quite a pared down piece and that makes for a greater impact in what you are saying.
Comment is about freedom - no such thing (blog)
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Greg
I don't remember seeing him play myself, but probably did as I used to catch them playing at the Sheffields and Forest from 62 onwards.
67 might hold bad memories for you but (2008 excepted) I think you've certainly had the upper hand for the past 15 years.
Comment is about Greg Freeman (poet profile)
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The pain of the 1967 Cup Final result will never leave me, John, but despite that as a football fan from that era I can relate to this. I never saw John White play but the thought of moving to another ground, and disturbing all those ghosts ... Chelsea have just unveiled a statue of Peter Osgood at Stamford Bridge, and I hope we never move.
Comment is about The Ghost of White Hart lane (blog)
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Thanks Win
I suspect you're there on merit whereas I paid my way in!
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A poem that speaks to me, Freda. xx
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Hi Freda, love the way you have handled this subject. Fantastic poem, Ay Hebden WOL last week it was the stand out piece of the night for me. Win X
Comment is about Songs of the Tree of Life (blog)
Original item by Freda Davis
A poem that is both moving and also very clever. It took me a couple of reads to get the first world war references, I just saw it as a marriage breakdown first time round.
"I found the will to climb my walls,
trod on a thousand parts
that squished and screamed,"
was horrific and real. Well done Isobel. xx
Comment is about Cry Freedom (blog)
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Hi John, I believe congratulations are in order... We are both in the book "Along the Iron Veins" great stuff. Win x
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Hi Laura
Thanks for your comments on the recent train one. Glad it works for you. I agree that to get the reader to fill in the blanks is a good thing generally but the writting still has to have quality and sometimes its easy to loose that when you know the context yourself. Win
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Thanks all. I don't know why I decided that stairs should speak like this.But who knows? Graham and I are both fans of A.E.Housman, I guess.The conceit is that both wife and stairs want a new carpet and conspire against husband. Regular stuff in our house.
Comment is about stairs talk poem to man (blog)
Howdy
I was all set on going to the Tudor on Thursday, but have been dying of some flu/cold nonsense, and would rather not ruin me first attempt at reading aloud by accidentally gobbing on someone :(
Will see how I feel on Thursday, but if not this one, then I will deffo go to the next. Ta for the reminder anyhow - see you soon
Comment is about John Togher (poet profile)
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Hello Laura. It's the Wigan event at the Tudor this Thursday. Hope to see you there.
John
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god I look so drunk, I wouldnt mind but I hadnt had a drop of booze lol.
Comment is about Katie Haigh at Middleton, September 2010 (photo)
Yet another one of yours that I really like ray :)
I too love the 'pidgin' language used. "peek up dresses make life brighter" - funny line!
I'm not really sure what that last line could mean...I like to ponder it though :)
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Hi Dave, thanks for reading the train one :-).I have made some more comments on the blog page.
Comment is about Dave Bradley (poet profile)
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Hi Gus, thanks for reading the train one :-).I have made some more comments on the blog page. Win x
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Hi Greg, thanks for reading the train one :-).I have made some more comments on the blog page. With all the cuttings and tunnels it really did feel like burrowing!
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Hi Andy, thanks for reading the train one :-).I have made some more comments on the blog page. Yes I liked Gus's comment too. Don't think this one is a reading one somehow. Win x
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Ann Foxglove
Wed 13th Oct 2010 18:13
Wouldn't the rescue of the Chilean miners be a fab subject for the Freedom poem? Not really up my street, hope someone tackles it! x
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