<Deleted User> (6895)
Tue 17th Sep 2013 14:08
Well actually Isobel, I wasn't thinking about Nazi camps as that puts me in mind of extermination. This seems more about exploitation and autonomy. The girls may have approved of the extra money and tattoo but its the exploitation of usually vulnerable individuals from poor relationship backgrounds that concerncs me and how much in control of themselves they are especially as labelled as drug addicted. However, unlike Francine I have not watched the full videoand there is a point about starting on a road...
Comment is about Turning Over Tables (blog)
Original item by Isobel
Thankyou so much for your thoughts. Mines gone from Bolton to London, Greg, so we may have passed on weeping motorways.
Comment is about Independence Day (blog)
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has to be one of my favourites of yours that, nick. the imagery in the first few lines for example is breathtaking but it's a strong piece all round - would like to hear you read this sometime defo
Comment is about EDGE 2 (blog)
Original item by NICK ARMBRISTER
that last line really hit me, John.
excellent stuff
Comment is about Cuckoo (blog)
Original item by John Darwin
like the thought behind this, Dave.
top stuff m8
Comment is about Keats (blog)
Original item by Dave Bradley
'rain'? 'Sunlight'?' 'Dust'? Is someone claiming to have copyright on those words? They're going to have to be suing a heck a lot of people - including me and Louis Macneice.
Comment is about Forward prize contender in new plagiarism row (article)
Original item by Greg Freeman
interesting case this one guys. when i first read it, i didn't actually twig it was as the structure is different rather than just a straight copy instead threading lines in and out of the poem or poems itself re-arranging them somewhat in almost a david bowie like fashion.
i know matt from old, he was my uni teacher some years back at bolton uni so feel sorry for him there, but it does raise a totally different legal background.
makes you wonder if he would have got away with it if he had mentioned it at the beginning.
Comment is about Forward prize contender in new plagiarism row (article)
Original item by Greg Freeman
We'll have to persuade him to the Pembrokeshire Coast Path next.
Comment is about Simon Armitage's walk: 'He had vaguely imagined a stroll along the beach' (article)
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Comment is about Brian Wake (photo)
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Hello Harry and thanks for this
Yes, I have been smitten with mountains ever since my first encounter with the Scottish Highlands, walking across Knoydart at the age of 17. It's impossible to see the hills of Arran without being moved to a sense of something outside our normal humdrum life - whether you see them from the ferry as you come over from Ardrossan or whether you see them close up.
This particular day I was sitting at North Sannox waiting for my wife and the dog to come back down the glen from Coire Na Cioche or whatever it's called (The Devil's Punchbowl corrie underneath the Maiden's Breast) and the mist was doing a "now you see them now you don't" act on the high tors of Cir Mhor and North Goatfell, and suddenly that Zen koan about "first there is a mountain then there is no mountain, then there is" popped into my head.
Comment is about Glen Sannox (blog)
Original item by STEVE RUDD
Beautiful Jane. I love the way the title contrasts so sharply to the emotions of the poem. You expect joy, release, happiness but the poem delivers nostalgia and more than a little sadness at your loss. I love the effect of the unspoken here. xx
And fathers don’t show it
And mothers don’t say it.
We travel back in torrential dusk –
She’s gone
Comment is about Independence Day (blog)
Original item by jane wilcock
Thank you Jane. Thank you Francine for feeling things the way I feel them. I couldn't watch beyond the first few seconds of the video because I felt so sick with anger - but yes, the treatment of the Jews definitely came to mind.
The big issue here for me is that British taxpayers money has been used to buy this work and we are currently displaying it in a prominent art gallery to children and students. What message are we putting out to future generations? One that I thought we'd put to bed with Auschwitz. And in the name of art...
Comment is about Turning Over Tables (blog)
Original item by Isobel
I read the ideas behind it and watched the video. I find it sadistic, degrading, and unconscionable. How can this be called art when in fact he is exploiting the very ideas he wants to explore - and use as a metaphor! As I watched the video, I couldn't help but be reminded of the Nazi camps!
Comment is about Turning Over Tables (blog)
Original item by Isobel
Thx Julian :-)
Comment is about Mark this: Winston Plowes judging US magazine's found poetry contest (article)
Original item by Greg Freeman
Thanks for your comments on Loire and Phoenix, Isobel. Phoenix is named after a campaign group that is trying to establish a permanent live music and arts venue in Woking. In the meantime they meet in an empty shop next to the JobCentre. I read it there tonight, to a small but attentive audience. Your campaign seems a worthy cause, too.
Comment is about Isobel (poet profile)
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<Deleted User> (9882)
Mon 16th Sep 2013 23:34
'oh and btw'(haha)is that your art work of Mr Zimmerman-if 'tis-'tis cool!cya soon.
Love Solar.x
Comment is about ODE TO DYLAN (blog)
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<Deleted User> (6895)
Mon 16th Sep 2013 23:22
ditto all previous comments.Well done Jane.xx
Comment is about Independence Day (blog)
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<Deleted User> (9882)
Mon 16th Sep 2013 23:05
whhhhat!!! no comments-I love that 'oh and btw'touch-sooo funny.I think we have the same sense of humour!x
Comment is about ODE TO DYLAN (blog)
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<Deleted User> (9882)
Mon 16th Sep 2013 22:40
the whole poem,title and all,go together perfectly -really enjoyed this one Jane,and always nice to have you back on board.My very best regards to you
x
Comment is about Independence Day (blog)
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to everyone ty very much appreciated :)
Comment is about jean lucy thompson (poet profile)
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<Deleted User> (9882)
Mon 16th Sep 2013 22:35
Ian,no pun intended,but this is one cool poem.x
Comment is about A Scarecrow Dreams Of Leaving (blog)
Original item by Ian Whiteley
Very effective and well-crafted poem, Jane. Liked "screwdriver rain", "the past, present, and future knitted", "torrential dusk", and the parents' reactions. My sister-in-law experienced the same thing this weekend, journeying from Brighton to Manchester, both children now gone.
Comment is about Independence Day (blog)
Original item by jane wilcock
Thank you for your comment - yes, I do dark poetry indeed...glad you liked, Katy x
Comment is about alan barlow (poet profile)
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I feel sorry for shrine trees, stood years upon years with ribbons and photos of grief even when the spring has turned again.
Comment is about Cuckoo (blog)
Original item by John Darwin
I enjoyed this: we walk our own roads, it is out own tread upon the earth.
Comment is about Phoenix (blog)
Original item by Greg Freeman
They should buy your poem and put it up next to it. It would be a much more significant and powerful statement - though the video should not exist I agree.
Comment is about Turning Over Tables (blog)
Original item by Isobel
Sounds excellent! Sorry I couldn't make it - couldn't get away from work with the new term starting. Looks like I missed some brilliant work!
Comment is about September Collage Poem - The Sun (blog)
Original item by Stockport WoL
Liked the vividness of this Ian, a sad occasion well recorded in your words. Win
Comment is about She Wears Pink (blog)
Original item by Ian Whiteley
Hi Julian, Yes, unfortunately it does. I was aware of this but it was more important not to clash with other much closer events in Sowerby, Todmorden and Halifax and the venue also only had limited days.
Comment is about Char March first guest at Shindig launch in Hebden Bridge (article)
Original item by Greg Freeman
<Deleted User> (9882)
Mon 16th Sep 2013 16:40
Mr Wilde on a motorbike!?....LOOK OUT EVERYONE! nice to see a biker poem Alan-cheers.x
Comment is about Weekend Wanderer (blog)
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<Deleted User> (9882)
Mon 16th Sep 2013 16:36
is there a translated version please Jean? haha.
poor old Mr Finn.He isnt Huckleberrys Dad by any chance?...;0)thanks for the 'ard wuk.As previously stated I love the different approaches.'Kep um cummin!x
Comment is about Mickey Finn(Awld Lancy Poem) Anonymoose (blog)
Original item by jean lucy thompson
It`s not what you do, Cynthia, it`s the way that you do it...even this kind of deadly stuff
I particularly like:
`upon slabs of self-interest.`
Comment is about Metaphor (blog)
Original item by Cynthia Buell Thomas
<Deleted User> (9882)
Mon 16th Sep 2013 16:22
awwww! I was quite moved by this fabulous poem Jean.I love all your different approaches to poetry,I'm not keen when poets write in a 'one paced style way'.
Please do keep them coming-love-Solar.x
Comment is about Was This the Plan (blog)
Original item by jean lucy thompson
Steve,
I wonder what it is about height and massivness that compels awe?
I think the `drama` stems from a feeling that -whatever the grinding has done afterwards - the original forming was somehow catastrophic.
The second line of the final section is the big, big question.(after all, if you `flatline` a drawing of arelatively small area of sea-level earth themountains can appear pimplelike).
I enjoyed:`oozing in the long groan of it`s melting;
`And that...`rumble away`
Comment is about Glen Sannox (blog)
Original item by STEVE RUDD
This video features in the DLA Piper Series: Constellations. It is the work of Santiago Sierra. A group of drug addicted prostitutes were induced to have these tattoos for money. The piece is supposed to explore the concepts of power, economic exploitation and objectification of the human body. The Tate have paid for it and now have it on display. Shame on them!
Comment is about Turning Over Tables (blog)
Original item by Isobel
Simon,
I`d love to see you re-do this as a sonnet.
Comment is about September Sisters (blog)
Original item by Simon Austin
Ian,
Nice, neat, apt and delightful rhymer in `ight`...particularly like that `snow-flesh` and the way the `coal` eyes pull it up at the end
(and it`s one of those where the poem actually
out-classes the picture)
Comment is about A Scarecrow Dreams Of Leaving (blog)
Original item by Ian Whiteley
I enjoyed this Greg. Though inspired by your own life, it's outward looking. I hope you now get to do all the mad things that mad people do - just wish I could join you!
Comment is about Phoenix (blog)
Original item by Greg Freeman
Great poem Cynthia - I love the parallels you draw. Man has great capacity for cruelty - sometimes it overwhelms me how accepting of it we all are.
Comment is about Metaphor (blog)
Original item by Cynthia Buell Thomas
I like this, David. It opens with an interesting explanation, and closes with a particular experience extended for several lines, presumably to emphasise the grip of that memory which was beyond the casual, the underbelly of the 'tourist-y' attractions.
Comment is about HOME TOWN (blog)
Original item by David Subacchi
Great rhythm to this, John, and well-chosen words: "wither", "wilt", "estate agents' bluster". Maybe you could consider adding another stanza, to give it even more impact?
Comment is about Cuckoo (blog)
Original item by John Darwin
Dave, thanks for your kind comments on Loire. I was admit, I was surprised to find that Angers was twinned with Wigan. But why not? I've just put another one up, reflections on the first few months of retirement ...
Comment is about Dave Bradley (poet profile)
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<Deleted User> (5011)
Mon 16th Sep 2013 08:39
And sound your thoughts are too, Brian. There's no money in poetry...
Comment is about From Chickentown to McCain chips: but does Cooper Clarke's new ad put you off your tea? (article)
Original item by Greg Freeman
<Deleted User> (6895)
Sun 15th Sep 2013 22:58
hey Jean-dont forget the '?'s...xx
Comment is about Was This the Plan (blog)
Original item by jean lucy thompson
ta very much one and all :)
Comment is about Was This the Plan (blog)
Original item by jean lucy thompson
Laura Taylor
Tue 17th Sep 2013 14:38
Great poem, tying the idea of the 'problem' cuckoo to the problems they 'cause'.
Agree with Greg, rhythm is excellent, and I really like the idea behind it.
These lines are really stand-out:
Tie blooms to the railings and leave them to wither,
to remind us we die if we need to remember.
Three days for the flowers to wilt
One less in the swelt of the summer
Deadheads bow brown in a semblance of grief
For the blood and bone bedlam that played out beneath.
Brilliant.
Comment is about Cuckoo (blog)
Original item by John Darwin