The worst enemy

British folk deserve

better than sovereignty

under Tory rule.

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Lynn Dye

Fri 17th Jun 2016 18:42

Hi MC - the simple answer is that I do not believe you are racist or a bigot; you have never said anything that would lead me to think so.

I understand the desire for lower numbers of people and that not everyone voting to leave will be racist, although I think we can safely say that people who are racist will vote to leave.

I read yesterday that according to the Office of National Statistics, there are more people leaving the UK than there are entering it, so the numbers are not in danger.

I also read the views of economists that we actually need the amount of immigrants in order to pay for our pensions. Something perhaps to ponder on?

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M.C. Newberry

Fri 17th Jun 2016 17:19

I am always intrigued by the use of extremes in attacking
or defending a POV. Simplification doesn't help
clarification and can be considered an abuse of logic - and
logically held beliefs.
If I challenge a policy of uncontrolled immigration into my small country, into a society that has taken centuries to
evolve through limited/agreed assimilation, by what
terms of reference does that make me a racist or a
bigot?


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Lynn Dye

Thu 16th Jun 2016 13:26

Rob – I mostly agree with your analogy, except that maybe what the British people deserve is a fairer voting system. To win just 24% of the electorate and end up with a majority is totally abhorrent to me.

I carried out an analysis on the last election, and discovered there were more left wing votes against the Conservatives than there were for Tory votes. It was just that they were divided between the Labour Party, the Greens, SNP and Plaid Cymru.

Therefore, I conclude that too many of us do deserve better!

I also bear in mind that the Tories bought the last election as their majority is slighter than the constituencies currently being investigated for election fraud.

P.S. What about the greedy bigots? Ha ha ha.

Robert Mann

Thu 16th Jun 2016 12:45

Lynn - we (British) deserve all we get. After all, we voted for the latest Government. Next week we will vote in an extremely divisive ballot, which for me is a contest between two equally unpalatable sides: greedy politicians & bankers v. racists and bigots (Economy v. Immigration). I don't see anyone winning!
Rob

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