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Thanks to Patricia & Stefan for getting me thinking about this topic again.......





this lion was sat there

being a lion

when a man

who beat his wife and kids

shot him

through the head

and used his fur

for a rug


this alligator was sat there

being an alligator

when a man

who raped a child

thrust a spear

into his back

and used his hide

for a handbag


this whale

swam there

being a whale

when a man

who stabbed a priest

harpooned him

just for

being a whale


this fox

lurked there

eating chickens

he had stolen

when a man

with a horse

and a dog

and a port

waiting for him

back at the bar

chased him down

and ripped him apart

just for fun


Fucking Animals eh?

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<Deleted User> (6895)

Wed 12th Jun 2013 18:32

We certainly have nothing against Foxes being Foxes,only against the kind of people who think they can treat other people in the way they treat Foxes-(as seen on T.V.)

Very good poem Mr.W.xx

<Deleted User> (9882)

Wed 12th Jun 2013 12:46

enjoyed(albeit on a sad subject)
your poem very much by the way Ian-cheers.x

<Deleted User> (9882)

Wed 12th Jun 2013 12:43

Oh! the oh so terrible thought of our seas and lands being swamped by all kinds of wildlife!

According to the masses of them from centuries ago,one would think it impossible for there to be any room left for present day humans on this earth.Obviously nature has its own way of culling,it is called the food chain,of which we are a natural(sometimes)part.We are not exactly having to shoehorn our ways in between them all.

If parents leave babies unsupervised and cant be arsed securing windows and doors where babies are concerned,and farmers dont build strong enough habitats for livestock,then surely they are asking for trouble,not only from usual predators in rural areas or 'urban'(bollox!)Foxes tempted into city centres or the like by piggish food waste littering humans,but also dangerous dogs,rats and even more dangerous,in the case of children-paedophiles.

So I say to all blood lust'rs-either lock up your daughters and hen houses,go and play with your guns and horses elsewhere or accept the consequences of your own faults.

I saw in my local paper recently the sad story of four lambs being mauled to death by a pack of dogs on the loose,...what does that tell you?

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Lynn Dye

Tue 11th Jun 2013 22:55

Well personally, I do not eat other creatures, fact, so I will never see eye to eye with fox hunts either.

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Ian Whiteley

Tue 11th Jun 2013 20:13

At least I know that part of my anatomy from my elbow MC what's your excuse? You seem to be saying its oK to act humanely to animals providing its on your list of justifiable causes. There is a difference between hunting for food & hunting for vanity or fun & if you can't see that you really are miopic - we won't see eye to eye on this - you have your view - enjoy the thrill of the kill - I'll pass thanks

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M.C. Newberry

Tue 11th Jun 2013 16:39

Missing the point? (as usual?) Hmm. You cannot absolve mankind from its part in the ways of the world. Man was, is and will always be a predator. The evolvement you speak of so glibly merely takes that inheritance to a more "sanitised" level. The biggest sin we admit to ourselves is "unnecessary cruelty" and define this according to our lights. If "Rat hunting" replaced "fox hunting", would the heated accusations be so readily forthcoming. I very much doubt it! Fashion dictates
profit and over the centuries various wild animals
have been targeted, only for the fad to decline to
its present virtually non-existent "desirability", whether it has been beaver (hats), fur (coats/stoles), or hide (shoes/bags) - as domestic replaces "wild".
We hunt and we eat other creatures - fact...yet - We ensure the survival of species - fact...and We alone can control the numbers of a species ensuring the survival of a habitat and that of inter-dependent species. And so it goes on. I have the personal knowledge of contributing directly to the removal of sperm oil from industry and its replacement with an artificial action that led directly to the saving of a whole species of giant whale. Where were you?
Checks and balances - and you are welcome to dwell on that part of your anatomy you mention in the hope that nothing bites you there :-)
Lynn - "Only the humane" other animals? In a limited domestic setting perhaps. But in a wider context, it is done to ensure the proper regulation and survival of countless species and their worlds. Those so passionately involved are unlikely to adopt that word to describe themselves or their dedication.

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Ian Whiteley

Mon 10th Jun 2013 16:57

Thanks Lynn - you've got it in one :-)
Whereas MC, as usual, has missed the point. If we are so 'evolved' why do humans kill for 'fun'? or for 'fur' or for 'accessories' when we don't have to? and why do we try to attribute 'human' characteristics to foxes in order to justify chasing them to ground and ripping them to pieces? And why do we kill whales just to see the seas coloured blood red. Checks and Balance my arse!

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Lynn Dye

Mon 10th Jun 2013 16:11

Another good one, Ian :)

M.C. Only the humane among us humans help other animals. Dolphins and dogs have been known to save human lives. :)

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M.C. Newberry

Mon 10th Jun 2013 15:53

Man - the primary predator who, unlike the other animals, saves what the other animals do not; preserves when the other animals don't
know how, and steps in to rescue those not of his kind when the other animals pass on by
Checks and balances.

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