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John Darwin

Thu 24th Sep 2009 14:45

Nicky, thanks you for your comments on 'the daylight comes with me' and for taking the time to respond so thoughfully. Much appreciated. On the title and the same line within it - it is purely a sexual reference, the literal climax of the relationship between these people (whoever they may be :-)) as the daylight puts an end to their time alone. I am glad you enjoyed the poem.

Thanks
John

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Thu 24th Sep 2009 11:55

Hi Andy, just want to say thanks for your positive comments on my work. I might not always agree with the changes you would make but i appreciate your thoughts and care when critiquing. Thanks again,

Janet.x

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Thu 24th Sep 2009 11:49

Hi Neil, you're welcome to my comments and thankyou for accepting my thoughts so graciously. Something i need to learn to do sometimes but i'm getting there. :-)

Thankyou also for your thoughts on 'A gentile river.' To be honest it was one of those poems which land in your lap and even i had no idea what it was about. The comments were interesting to read so i'm happy now that i posted it. Sometimes imagery is all that's needed and looking to find something else defeats the object of the exercise so to speak.

Janet.x

ps. as for mysterious, i don't think so but i'll take it as a compliment. Thankyou.

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Thu 24th Sep 2009 11:42

Hi Isobel, thanks for your comment on my poem ''A gentile river.'
To be honest i wasn't sure what it was about myself. It was one of those which came to me while relaxing with no actual intention to write anything. It was the day after it was written i looked at it again and i realized it has several things running through it. There might well be something of myself in there but if so it came from within and not consciously.
When i first read it back to myself i doubted i should even post it. Now i'm glad i did. The various comments helped me to see something else in my own work. I think it was just one of those poems which are meant to be shared for the sheer pleasure of the imagery.

Janet.x

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Thu 24th Sep 2009 11:31

Hi Cynthia, thanks for your comment on my poem ' A gentile river.'
I've added a comment of my own to the comment box below the poem. To be honest i didn't understand your comment. Maybe you read something in it which was not intentional i don't know. Thankyou anyway. Your comments are always welcome.

Janet.x

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Neil West

Wed 23rd Sep 2009 23:08

Hi Jane, thank you for your positive comments, it means a lot, and there is a happy outcome, I'll post it soon (I'm practising suspense!). I'll also be better equipped for the school run now thanks to you!

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Isobel

Wed 23rd Sep 2009 22:57

Thanks for your support with WOLOP Jeff. The only problem will be wading our way through the very many blogs to choose a winner. I think it should be a more democratic competition though. A lot depends on how many people bother.... Look forward to seeing you at Tudor on Saturday. Izz xx

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Wed 23rd Sep 2009 22:19

Hi Nicky, thanks again for your lovely comments.
I enjoy the fact that you read and see something differently to some others although their comments are no less valued. :-)

I went to see a medium once who told me there was two children for me. Then he saw my face and said ''but that can be avoided.'' :-)
At the end of the day whatever we say is only ever accurate at the moment of the reading. People make their own choices when the given scenarios come about. It's often only then it is realized that the medium was right and the reading valid. It's the outcome which matters and is often blamed on the medium when it isn't what the recipient expected by way of interpretation. Any medium can only interpret an image as they see it. Pretty much like interpreting a poem one doesn't understand or relate to in any way shape or form. Sometimes it takes a little discussion between the medium and sitter to get it absolutely spot on just as a discussion between poet and reader creates a clearer understanding of a poem.
Occasionally a medium is naturally intuitive and intuitives just know. They don't need to be told anything to know they are making a connection with the sitter and can even produce astounding messages when answering a question asked by the sitter.
Hope this explains it a little but i can't explain any more about it here because it is a poetry site so if you wish to chat more about it you can email me any time. I promise i won't try to foretell your future. :-)

Janet.x

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Wed 23rd Sep 2009 20:53

Thanks Cynthia for your comments on "curtains and it happened one night"
Bernie

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Wed 23rd Sep 2009 20:49

Hi Neil, I was in the Brit Army for 22yrs and then worked in International Aid for ten years, so I worked in a lot of conflict/post conflict and disaster striken area's, so that is where quite a lot of the stuff I write comes from.
Cheers Mate.
Bernie

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Wed 23rd Sep 2009 20:45

Hi Isobel, thank you for all your comments on my poems, you made me realise i might need to try my hand at writing a happy poem! I really like your poem 'Words'

Jessie x

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Neil West

Wed 23rd Sep 2009 20:41

Hi John. I enjoyed 'The Waiting' very much, I can tell you're a proper poet, it reminded me of when I tried to read Ulysses (a bit of it anyway).

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Neil West

Wed 23rd Sep 2009 20:24

Hi Nicky, it was kind of you to tell me more about your interests, I think we must come from similar backgrounds and experiences (Catholic upbringing, interest in Romanticism, teaching career), even the four kids! My brain feels like it's coming back to life again after ten years of CBBC!!! I feel a poem coming on where I'll tell you what the bloody story in Balamory is so you don't need to keep asking (ha ha).

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Deborah Jordan Bailey

Wed 23rd Sep 2009 19:43

Hi Cynthia, thank you for your comment on HebDeb, I'm more suprised you thought it was poetry because it is real, I am looking for a place to stay In Hebden. I'm not yet homeless unless he indoors gets finally tired of my manychangingmoods and random ramblings and says Oi, enough, get thee gone silly woman, but until I find somewhere down here I have a lot of rail travel ahead of me. I saw a couple of nice places today..but so hilly..but that's Heb, beautiful but hilly..thanks again, debz x

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Nichola Burrows

Wed 23rd Sep 2009 10:25

Hi Neil.

I too was inpired by the Romantics, my all time favourite poet is Coleridge. His works also inspired my love of philosophy, metaphysics and of anything that is classed as supernatural - especially vampires - have a whole bookcase of Vampire novels - which is in stark contrast to my theological interests (or is it? angels and demons?), which I also find fascinating (may I add I am not religious, but dragged up a catholic, and I am not a goth or satanist haha, but think I would have made a bloody good Pagan and would probably have been drowned or burned at the stake).

Really enjoy your poetry. We can't write to please everyone, but we can write to please ourselves, and there'll always be someone at somepoint that will read a piece and find a connection with it.

Really enjoyed Crimson King, it weaves a spell around the reader. More please.

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Wed 23rd Sep 2009 09:32

Thanks Cynthia for your comments on "it happened one night 2 and curtains"
Bernie

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Neil West

Wed 23rd Sep 2009 08:23

Hi Nicky. Thank you for your comments, they were both kind and honest, two sentiments I greatly appreciate. I am amazed how many creative and artistic people there are on WOL who are prepared to share each others work and offer support. In my experience nothing empties a room more quickly than saying something like , 'I've just written this poem, would you mind reading it and telling me what you think' :) I worried poems like Crimson and Locusta might not be everyone's cup of tea on WOL but reading your work I can see I'm not the only one who enjoys a bit of dark fantasy, Thanatos is a great character! I enjoy your use of language, your poems soar and reveal vivid imagination - respect!

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Neil West

Tue 22nd Sep 2009 21:13

Hi Cate. I'm pleased you liked Locusta, I hesitated about posting it as I worried about the imagery being a bit, erm, blokey? Not one for Sylvia Plath fans maybe!

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Cate Greenlees

Tue 22nd Sep 2009 15:16

Hi Neil, thanks for the comment on Our Gramps, and yes it was written from my memories , all perfectly true ,of my grandfather. Sos if The Wheel frightened you...... its done its job then, it was meant to !!!! lol
Cate xx

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Cate Greenlees

Tue 22nd Sep 2009 15:12

Hi Stephen, thanks for your comment on Sunflowers..hopefully you`re right and its a while before I cock my toes up!!!!!!
Cate xx

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Nichola Burrows

Tue 22nd Sep 2009 13:29

Ok, you win. first time I have actually edited a poem after blogging it, so there's hope for me yet. Ammended the first line of the last stanza to include hope, but I do draw the line at wiping tears away haha.

Had some real fun writing that poem, with the irregularities running through it. It sort of symbolises the irregularites and complexities not only of human nature but also of conscious thought for me.

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Nichola Burrows

Tue 22nd Sep 2009 13:18

Hi Cynthia thanks for your comment, it's nice to let a bit of insanity take control of your pen once in a while. And I did have fun!! haha.

Irregular rhymes and rhythms and speaking in riddles are all part of the complexities of our consciousness, whose initial stream sometimes is hard to make sense of, don't you think?x

I have not commented on 'The Peacock' yet, but I shall. I wanted to read it over once again in peace and quiet, rather than make a half comment.

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Russell Thompson

Tue 22nd Sep 2009 12:25

Delighted to see you on here, Penny.

R

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Neil West

Mon 21st Sep 2009 21:37

I don't know, I find I'm imagining sandwich based snacks most of the time, I think bacon for supper, yum ;)

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Isobel

Mon 21st Sep 2009 19:21

'He was just a young man' is very moving. Really well written - I like it a lot.

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Marianne Louise Daniels

Mon 21st Sep 2009 15:54

thanks for the comments cynthia. The Peacock is a gloriously rich poem. x

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steve mellor

Mon 21st Sep 2009 11:58

Hi Nicky
Thanks for the prod and comment.
I was there for the final week and a half up to election day. Wall to wall TV coverage. UK politics has nothing on the US fiasco. God help Obama.
Steve M. :-))))

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John Darwin

Mon 21st Sep 2009 11:24

Hi Dave, thanks for your comment on 'April' - I agree it can last but that wasn't how the writer felt at the time! Like your old texts poem very much - personally I do a lot of deleting to avoid embarrassing myself the morning after :-)

best wishes

John

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Nichola Burrows

Mon 21st Sep 2009 11:07

Thanks for your comments. My husband said a similar thing and told me to update my history before writing, but I hope I put the idea across.

Hitler not only desecreated humanity but much of the world's Art. I'm not a religious person, but wherever he is I hope he's suffering twelve million times more than the suffering he placed on each individual. Knowing our luck he'll be Satan.s right hand man and come back to haunt humanity at the end of days.

Maybe I should have personified him as War, one of the four horseman of the Apocolypse.

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carol falaki

Mon 21st Sep 2009 10:35

thnaks for your comment on 'plum' Cate. i loved for whom the wheel turns :)

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steve mellor

Sun 20th Sep 2009 22:11

Hi Dave
Hope you had a good weekend.
My fear (and that of my US friends) was/is that if he fails, the black population will feel that there is no hope for their world to be improved, and then what?
Steve M.

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Isobel

Sun 20th Sep 2009 15:43

Hi Neil - I kind of thought the story had to be a real one. No-one could have imagined the ham sandwich which really tugs at you cos it brings us back to basics - the humanity of it all. You are right that sharing such experiences brings us together. I am happy to hear that the child survived it all and prospered - the seeds must have been sown well.

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Neil West

Sun 20th Sep 2009 14:51

Hi Isobel, thank you for your kind words, in fact the story is true and happened to a friend of mine, I feel that these extraordinary things that happen to ordinary people deserve to be recorded and expressed somehow so it can become a shared experience - and as it happens he grew up to be a fairly well adjusted music teacher!

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Neil West

Sun 20th Sep 2009 14:44

Hi Val, thank you for your kind comments. It's one of the few things I've written that is completely true, it was the experience of a friend and colleague who only told me the stroy after working together for about six years, I was very affected by it at the time but I hope it shows even the tragedies that befall us can be life affirming in their own way. I feel there is a sense of that in your own very powerful and passionate writing, especially Broken Heart where I think you make fantastic use of language'The knife that cut was long and thinSilent as it slid right in' - ouch!

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Chris Dawson

Sun 20th Sep 2009 05:55

Hi there,
How are you? How did the exams go? Thanks for reading, and commenting on, 'Important' - glad you liked it.
I've not been writing much lately - spent a bit of time doing some silly (but fun) fx on a friend's video - the link is on my profile page - please feel free to leave comments (on youtube I mean - no point in leaving them here - not my film) - and of course, encourage everyone you know to watch it. It's an undiscovered work of genius - possibly, rightly so!
Take care,
Cx

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Sat 19th Sep 2009 18:09

Thank you for your comment - a word such as delightful is exactly how the Eek is.
Reading your contributions to Write Out Loud has been a pleasure as well.
Spencer

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steve mellor

Sat 19th Sep 2009 17:34

Hello Cynthia
As ever, I appreciate your comments. I enjoyed writing Life-Line.
Hopes & Fears is a wee bit trite, and may well be worth a bit of re-writing. I was still a little carried away with the emotion I had felt whilst in the US, and fearful of the effect of failure on the black population.
I doubt that I would have posted it without the Discussion started by Dave B. Nevertheless.
Thanks again
I await your re-write of The Peacock
Steve M. :-)))

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Cynthia Buell Thomas

Sat 19th Sep 2009 13:26

Nicky, I got your message. I'm not ignoring your request. I wouldn't offer suggestions without much prior thought, but I certainly will. Thank you for even asking.

Your updated Bio only confirms what was already evident in your work ... intelligence, compassion and experience. And 4 kids, one a baby! Accolades to you!

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Neil West

Fri 18th Sep 2009 22:01

Hi Jane, I know I've commented on your use of language and it's effectiveness before but I really enjoyed reading Queen Mary's Rose Garden again just now, so atmospheric and warming on a cold autumnul evening :)

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steve mellor

Fri 18th Sep 2009 19:20

Hi Innocent
You have to remember that I was born in Yorkshire, where the pace of life is a little slower than on your side of the hill.
We obviously do things slightly different.
It wasn't totally auto-biographical. You'll have to guess which bits are which.
Steve M. :-)))

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steve mellor

Fri 18th Sep 2009 16:46

Hi Nicky
Obama poem
I shall lay any abuse firmly at your (and Dave's) door, but on the off-chance that I don't get any, I'm afraid I shall have to accept all the plaudits.
Steve M. :-))))

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steve mellor

Fri 18th Sep 2009 16:43

Hi Dave
I wouldn't have posted this normally, but it may start the ball rolling on the historical figure front.
It may not be the finest poem you've ever seen (who am I kidding).
Good idea though Dave
Steve M.

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Fri 18th Sep 2009 11:55

Thanks Val. :-)

Janet.x

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steve mellor

Fri 18th Sep 2009 08:55

Ey-up back Gus
Thanks for the comment/suggestions for Life-Line.
I only placed Masturbation where it is as I thought that this is/was when it became a full-time occupation (also because of the Tony Blair Ed; Ed; Ed speech)
Constipation did occur to me but I found it hard to squeeze it in (or out for that matter)
Many other ....ations came to mind after it was written, but I tend to try and keep my 'poems' as they were when they came out of my fingers.
I am humbled by your comments
Thanks again
Steve M.

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Tim Ellis

Thu 17th Sep 2009 22:25

Thanks for putting my show on the gig guide, David. Map too! Nice to see you last week.

Tim.

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Francine

Thu 17th Sep 2009 22:05

You made my day with your lovely compliment Dave...
It was most appreciated ; )

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Thu 17th Sep 2009 18:15

Thankyou for your comment

Jessie x

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Nichola Burrows

Thu 17th Sep 2009 17:18

thanks for your comment Cynthia, wish I could say that your stumble over a few lines was intentional for some reason, but I can't with 'Thanatos', I keep going back to it and trying to edit it a little without losing the feel. It was written fairly quickly in the few quiet moments that I succeeded to snatch last night. Any insight on the stumbles would be greatly appreciated.

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Thu 17th Sep 2009 16:53

that is very kind of you, I really appreciate your kind appraisal.
Spencer

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Thu 17th Sep 2009 13:46

Thank you for your comments, they are really appreciated. On a separate note. I love your barge, just the dogs doo daas.
I have always wanted to live on a barge, my friends dad had one and we used to go on it, I loved it. At the bottom of my street is the canal with house boats barges etc - Horsforth-Rodley etc , I walk along some Sundays, beautiful.

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