Come all you groaners - get in line...

To take your turn at the Shrine of Whine.

And take comfort that you're not alone

In your urgent need to have a moan.

Never before in the human story

(now a sort of Jackanory!)

Have people known the opportunity

To whinge and cuss with such impunity,

With the righteous feeling of self-pity

That assumes this life is sad and shitty,

Complaining about their "half-empty pot"

Instead of welcoming what they've got.

So, all you groaners...get in line

To worship at the Shrine of Whine.






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Adam Rabinowitz

Tue 20th Aug 2019 16:15

I actually had to read the comments before I realized it was whine and not wine that was being enshrined. Not the poet's fault I just don't have my glasses on ...I'm getting older and everything is getting more difficult and I'm in lots of pain anyway and...oh wait...sorry.

Great poem M.C.

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M.C. Newberry

Sun 18th Aug 2019 16:48

To Rachel - you make some good points. For my part, I was privileged to have known a memorable example of stoicism - the
Cornish composer George Lloyd (1913-1998) whose promising
career was cut short by service in WW2 when, as a Royal Marine
bandsman, along with his fellows, he was on duty in the gunnery
control room of an Arctic Convoy cruiser that sustained damage
that resulted in most of his comrades drowning in oil, with Lloyd
one of a few to escape but thereafter suffering such a collapse
he was diagnosed as beyond hope - until his wife refused to take
no for an answer and was instrumental in nursing him back to a
recovery that saw him compose some of the finest music of the
20th century. Never letting his awful experiences confound him, instead he produced some of the most uplifting music - his
beautiful "Symphonic Mass" being hailed as one of the greatest
pieces of 20th century English choral writing.
Don - thanks as always for the comments in your usual style..
KJ - I'm lucky with my knees (so far) and have an indoor bike to
keep things moving. Helpful indeed when it's raining ?
And my appreciation too for the "likes".
Onwards and upwards!! Nil desperandum.


Sun 18th Aug 2019 11:31

Really, I do understand the need for stoicism in tough circumstances. And, it definitely does seem a quality that is more natural to some than others. I've been around a chronic complainer or two and learned enough to know that I don't want to be one, especially living this life where I have never truly been in danger of not being able to meet my basic needs.

In her final years, my grandmother told me a story about her childhood that still gets to me to this day. She said she had sustained a fracture to her tailbone as a child and was discouraged from complaining through sarcasm and harsh criticism.

I still remember the look in her eyes as she told me--I would have given most anything to go back in time and show her some of the tenderness she needed.

We tend to give what we get. And, people who aren't given understanding have a hard time giving it to others--it can be a rather vicious circle. It's good to know when to stop feeding into cycles of victimization by indirectly enabling destructive behaviors. But, responding with decency to the suffering of others seems so basic to our humanity. Sometimes people really do just need to say things out loud and complain, even if only to open up conversation and gain perspective.

Enough said. There really doesn't seem to be a definitive answer when asking, "how much is too much?"

Well, now that I've got that off my chest, good day MC )


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Don Matthews

Sun 18th Aug 2019 10:15


Your issues raised need bringing up
With runners of the Shrine
What's the use of building it
If one can't visit, whine?

No use.

Hey? you Runners of the Shrine
You Keepers of the Whine
Why did you not think of my friend
Bus-station it this time?

Oh, you will next time

Now hell! entry is 30 quid
Poor penshies can't 'ford that
No bloody penshie-discounts?
We need to have a chat

You deserve to go out of business

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kJ Walker

Sun 18th Aug 2019 08:02

I had considered paying a visit myself, but with my knees and all the pain I'm in I don't think I'd make it. besides it's raining.
And another thing, why didn't they build the Shrine of Whine nearer to the bus station. and when you do go it's too expensive, and what do you get for your money?

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Don Matthews

Sun 18th Aug 2019 06:50

I'll never be seen
At this Shrine of Whine
Cos I'm not a moaner
(Said sippin' me wine)

Shit! who's put a fly
Smack dab in my winey
Stop bloody-well laughing
I'm also not whiney

(I'm just throwin' a little tantrum.....) ?

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