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who betrayed rhyming poetry to its literary death?

who betrayed rhyming poetry to its literary death?
who poisoned it and made it take its final breath
who cut it up into words of just prose
poets did,
poets did i suppose
with thier quirky non rhyming, non flowing literate shite
they put out the light of rhyming poetry from the new books on the shelves
because they wanted to make themselves look good
with theirĀ  eloquent poems that take an english degree to be understood
as if the man on the street ever could
but the man on the street still remembers the days
when poems used to rhyme with a rhythmic turn of phrase
and stick in a persons head
so they make up their own dirty limericks up instead
and why is poetry dying?
because the poets the only ones who read each others work
and they are spying
trying to make make a poem so clever
it can never be completely understood!

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<Deleted User> (7164)

Tue 5th Jan 2010 17:36

Well you certainly created a reaction with this one didn't you Daniel?
I think we need to watch out for Craig. He 'sounds' so like someone else on here. I hope he has a sense of humour if he continues to comment in this vein. Respect for your reply in response. I am not worthy! :-)

In my personal opinion i think rhymes help when listening to and reading performance poetry. Deep, meaningful and too much metaphor gets lost unless read by a seasoned performer who knows how to capture and engage an audience using pause, intonations and eye contact etc...

I like rhyme too and cliches might become obsolete when life is obliterated. Life is a cliche for many so some things will be used again and again but occasionally someone will put an extra twist to it to make it a little more original.
For me, that's the clever part though i don't claim to be good at it. :-)

Great comments from the others here.
Janet.x

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Daniel Hooks

Tue 5th Jan 2010 16:49

Don't get me wrong Craig I don't totally dislike free verse or prose poetry when it is done well but i have trouble when it hasn't got an out right flow and the rhythmn and the meaning is more than unclear.
as for the use of spying in my poem yes i think its a legitimate rhyme and use of the word as poets borrow or steal ideas from each other so they could be said to spy on each other.
As for the snobbery in poetry i am glad you agree! its seems as if you have to have some kind of PHD in english to get anywhere within the publishing world.
yes my poem is cliched but some the points remain and the best poetry, the ones that I have been asked to read again and again have a simple rhyme scheme and an outright meaning.
Dan

<Deleted User> (7123)

Tue 5th Jan 2010 01:53

So why is rhyme not taken seriously? Well, because nearly all modern rhyme is cliched, derivative, forced, unsubtle and totally uninspiring. When rhyme is used in ways that avoids these hideous calamities then I love it more than life itself. I used to write only in rhyme. It certainly helps create a pleasing rhythm and flow that cannot be eclipsed by the 'clever' ambiguity of free verse when crafted skilfully. However, it is restricting and it is very difficult to do it in a way that isn't clumsy, contrived and ultimately annoying rather than engaging.

Like you, I despise the plethora of 'broken prose' that is published in the name of poetry which has nothing of merit, sense or coherence to the uninformed reader. No novel would ever get published if it made no sense whatsover to anyone but the author, yet with poetry, absurd obscurity seems to be compulsory if you want to be taken seriously!

Sadly however, although your poem makes its point well about the conceited elitism of rubbish such as the wretched scribblings of Jen Hadfield who won the T.S. Elliot prize last year, it is also a perfect example of the type of rhyming poetry that is rightly spurned by publishers! 'breath and death' is probably the most common rhyme in the history of poetry....'shite' and 'light' is a common colloquial contrivance......'good', 'could', 'days, phrase'...all have been done to death....and should take their final breath!!


'The man on the street' is just one of several cliches, your rhymes are lacking the flow and rhythm you crave from poetry, appearing irregularly and in a stilted manner. And, then there is the obligitory forced rhyming of dying with spying for no logical reason. 'Spying' makes no sense in the context that you use it but is merely there to contrive a rhyme.That sort of thing is deeply unsatisfying and deserves to be shunned!

Rhyme, reason, rhythm and originality are the components of great poetry to engage a new audience. It should and would be published, but while people continue to churn out hackneyed doggrell whilst bemoaning the death of rhyme, then there is no case to argue and the' broken prosers' will continue to thrive!

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Isobel

Mon 4th Jan 2010 19:35

Yes - I can understand your frustrations. Only ever wrote in rhyme when I first started and found it really hard making the transition - but the step had to be taken cos rhyme isn't always taken seriously. My instincts are always to rhyme though - it flows when it rhymes - like music... My sister has written a similar one, if you are interested. Her name is Cate and the poem's title 'A rhyme in time'. It will be several blogs back now though.

<Deleted User> (6895)

Mon 4th Jan 2010 19:26

oh Danny boy! colour me traitorously agreeing with your poem-but going with the flow,does have its addictions,and restrictions(hey! rhyme!)-no seriously,i do to quite an extent agree with you-funny how rhyme is mostly shunned-why? if I knew I would tell-regards-Stef

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