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The Remoaners

They are winning the game . Disrespecting all who voted Out . By telling lies and hoping all will follow . They said they would . These people people with Money .Who hide there wealth and not pay their Taxes . People with the gift of the Gab . And Do Gooders who think they know best . We did vote out and won . But take all our Pride . It will be a sorry Great Britain who gives into Deciet . Making people feel they are not Worthy by not Believing in their Convictions .

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M.C. Newberry

Fri 2nd Jun 2017 17:27

LCPTB - welcome to the debate. ?

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M.C. Newberry

Fri 2nd Jun 2017 15:50

DB - the point, insofar as it applies to the EU, is that
are those of a political persuasion who consistently and
persistently challenge the status quo under the guise of
"caring" and if one avenue doesn't yield dividends, then
they dig another. It is not about "parroting" anything from my POV but (too borrow from your NB) MY concern
about the dubious priorities that seem to exist in the
minds of the "remoaners" which make EU membership &
obeisance to the will and whims of twenty seven other
lands (with their own aims and ambitions) as somehow preferable to proper self-regulation of our ancient laws,
rights and customs, not to mention our borders. The UK
is one third the size of France yet now supports a comparable population, increased by the dogma of
borderless socialism eagerly embraced during the recent Blair/Blunkett years....
utterly unsustainable from any point of view in any small
country that values and seeks to preserve its hard won freedom and national identity.
And war has not been prevented by the existence of the
EU (go East!) - it is NATO who have the onerous task
of stepping in to keep the peace, and thank heavens
for that.
Future trade will arrive if we show determination and
application - from the rest of a waiting world looking to
benefit from our famous creativity backed by a historical
world-wide trading record.
Adaptability is always the secret of success and I remain
a perennial optimist!
Cheers
MC

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David Blake

Thu 1st Jun 2017 22:11

Well written...

MC, are you parroting those who seem to be blaming the 'evils' (it's not perfect, but no IO is) of the EU on the left? This whole left-right conflation is the most absurd conclusion post-brexit I've seen, the most harmful and the most socially divisive. Just look at the Labour Party's ideological split on it for goodness' sake. That should put pay to that lazy-man's theory.

NB: I'm not a 'Remoaner', just a rational human being with genuine concerns.

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Harry O'Neill

Thu 1st Jun 2017 17:39

The intention of the statesmen who started the idea of the E.U. was that the mutual entanglements of the economies of the European countries would make it impossible for Europe to embark (among themselves) upon the two kinds of industrial great wars which had nearly devastated - not only Europe - but much of the rest of the world.

There are plenty of nostalgic nationalists in all EU countries who pine for the old order...When, thanks to the beneficence of Uncle Sam (Roosvelt) we were saved (after he had stopped us from fighting between ourselves) from having to submit to Uncle Joe (Stalin)....(for an update change the names to Trump and Putin)

An indication of how strong their idea is is the way all the leavers now want to cling on to the economic `goodies` it
has created - even after we leave.

The idea that we can now sally out and conquer the vast
economic battle-grounds of China and India and Brazil is
a bit of a laugh.

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Thu 1st Jun 2017 16:37

Standing on that soapbox suits you Wendy! Well vented lovely,angry lady!




Rose ?

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M.C. Newberry

Thu 1st Jun 2017 15:39

I hold the view that those who opt for being governed by
an organisation in which nearly thirty other countries,
many of them former tyrannies and dictatorships, have
the power to overrule and/or influence our parliamentary
primacy of sovereignty seem unaware that such as they
were considered in other days of being enemies of the Realm...Fifth
Columnists working from within. Fascism was never a serious threat in the UK...with the likes of Mosley
derided and laughed at by the
population as a whole, with the country going to war to challenge
the German version. The other
side of the coin is the insidious
social engineering of the political
left, constantly banging on about fascism to deflect from their own subversive activities, masquerading as the caring
conscience of the country while
actively engaged in undermining the
sovereign state in favour of some
utopian borderless world in which
they will enjoy power. To borrow
from a premise of George Orwell:
pigs might fly!

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