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Poetry Review editor Maurice Riordan urges prize judges to declare any interests

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A leading poetry magazine editor and poet has called on the top poetry prize competitions to introduce declarations of interest as part of their judging process. Maurice Riordan has revealed, in the latest issue of the Poetry Society’s Poetry Review, that he wrote to organisers of the TS Eliot Prize, Costa Book Awards, and Forward Prizes with his proposal. He added: “It’s fair to say that my suggestion met with some resistance.”

He reports that Bud McLintock, of the Costa Awards, said that “not all of our 15 category judges each year across all five categories necessarily work solely within the literary world, which in itself widens the sphere of influence considerably … I am therefore satisfied that the system works as it is and, in the circumstances, have no plans to change it.”

Susannah Herbert, director of the Forward Arts Foundation, said: “Although there is no formalised process regarding declarations of interest, each of the five Forward Prizes judges is expected to be honest, transparent and scrupulously fair … If you are comparing us with any other prize, the presence of five judges – at least two of whom are not poets – should be stressed. We could introduce formal declarations of interest but … we don’t feel that’s necessary.”

However, the Poetry Book Society, which runs the TS Eliot Prize, replied that it is introducing “a formal process which can be documented on declarations of interest from this year”. Riordan described this as “welcome news”.   

Riordan’s article, headed “Poetry Prizes: An Update”, mentions “instances of favouritism over the years” and the makeup of judging panels that “fosters the perception that it’s all a closed shop”. He says the “most obvious” relationships in the poetry world that should be disclosed are between editors and authors; agents and authors; work colleagues; and between teachers and ex-students and ‘mentees’.

He said: “In practice, the pressure on a judge to get a friend or professional colleague onto the shortlist is more common than is the expectation that one would then try to unfairly influence the final result. It’s necessary, therefore, that declarations of interest are required at every stage of the judging process.”

Riordan goes on to say: “It could be argued that the poetry community is such a small, tight network that if everyone were candid about their interests there would be no one left to decide on awards. I have some sympathy with this view.” But he adds: “It can seem small perhaps only because organisations look to a familiar roster of people when choosing their panels. And that in turn fosters the perception that’s it all a closed shop. No doubt, our current practices sometimes encourage the expectation of patronage and the reciprocation of favours. I want to emphasise sometimes. For the most part, I can say that from my own experience that judges act with fairness. They carry out what is a difficult, time-consuming and often under-rewarded job with integrity and sense of public duty. But because there have been instances of favouritism over the years, even the impartiality of the most scrupulous people may be questioned. I think the introduction of declarations of interest (and hopefully other organisations may now follow the Poetry Book Society’s example) will change the culture. In the meantime, I’d recommend that judges do volunteer declarations of interest, and ask that they be recorded, so that their own personal integrity cannot be compromised.”  

 

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Cynthia Buell Thomas

Mon 12th Oct 2015 17:11

Oh, Graham, you sweetheart, you really did put the cat among the pigeons! And probably, not intentionally. I wish I had read this set before the Wigan Slam where I ignobly flunked out.

I'm not sure that 'judges' could ever express the 'interest factors' that might influence their opinion/judgement in poetry competitions. I am going to give 'judges' full marks for really doing their best with their given skills to plough through the hundreds of entries they must assess. Before I wring them out, I think I should pass one day in their shoes. It must be tense! Maybe they even quarrel. Because their 'poetical' values may be entirely contradictory.

A great poem finely performed is a joy indeed. A fine poem can be wrecked by a poor performance. A poor poem is never rescued by a fine performance, although it can come close. Such is personal magnetism apart from good poetry.

And this input is now going nowhere, so I'm stopping.

I lie. IMO, 'boozy crowds' in no way elevate poetry to levels of excellence, usually beyond the obvious sexual titillating or deliberate political bombing. But real sentimentality can also be a strong contender. And I never knock that; it's greatly under-rated.

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John Coopey

Tue 6th Oct 2015 18:30

I have to say I rather like a boozy pub crowd. It's an excellent arena to find out if your stuff interests anyone else other than polite poetry performers awaiting their turn on stage to be politely applauded by other performers.
At the last "zoo" I performed at a woman bared her tits to me while I was on stage. Result!

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Laura Taylor

Tue 6th Oct 2015 10:36

Well Graham, that's not at ALL what you said in the first place, so you can understand the reaction.

Poetry slams are only one small part of performance poetry. I can't stand them, as it goes. I prefer to perform to an audience, at a proper gig, to entertain them, not to win prizes or money (although that would be nice, but it doesn't bring out the best in many people).

Also - pubs are not the only, or even main, venues for performance poetry. Your assumption of a 'boozy pub crowd' against 'pros' still carries value judgements I'm afraid. You're displaying performance poetry prejudice again. Poetry is for EVERYONE, not 'pros'. Let's get away from elitism, not serve it.



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M.C. Newberry

Mon 5th Oct 2015 13:46

The views expressed about reading and performing poetry
remind me of the distinct pleasures in settling down to
read poems from the page (hearing a voice in one's
mind), and listening to "performed" versions on CD etc.
- often from famous voices with the merit of training
to enhance interpretation and delivery. Some, on
quieter themes may be best read, whilst more vigorous/
declamatory material can gain from being listened to.
Each has its appeal - depending on the mood - and can
be valued for separate but no less relevant reasons.

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Graham Sherwood

Mon 5th Oct 2015 13:31

I wasn't making the lesser quality argument at all.

Indeed, I have read several years worth of performance poetry from excellent poets like Laura and do fully understand the raison d'etre of the WOL site. I'm part of the team for goodness sake.

Perhaps rather clumsily I meant to say that the performance elevates the work above and beyond that which can be achieved by poetry written for the page. Hence the "performers" are onto a good thing.

Certainly, in my view there is a comparison between Poetry Slams and the X-Factor, compelling viewing but very forgettable. With the odd Leona Lewis emerging from time to time.

Poetry competitions seem to have merit (if that is the right word) for unknowns to become noticed and thus get a book published, but bizarrely they are asked to perform their work afterwards too??

Whether good poetry is better evaluated by poetry pro's or a boozy pub crowd is of course another debate entirely.

Perhaps I'm swimming in the wrong goldfish bowl?

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Laura Taylor

Mon 5th Oct 2015 12:24

Echoing what Attila said about performance poetry, in my own way - is it 'ECK all about the performance!! The poems have to be interesting, clever, funny, heart-wrenching etc etc. The wordplay has to be intelligent and sonically arousing.

What a strange claim to make on Write Out LOUD, indeed!

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attila the stockbroker

Sun 4th Oct 2015 10:35

No, Graham, it isn't at all. It's about combining interesting words - which have the capacity to inspire and entertain, in the widest possible sense of the word - with a performance which makes an audience member want to listen to them.

That's what 'Write Out Loud' MEANS, and it's why this website is such a good idea. There are literally thousands of sites all over the web where people post poetry. This one is there to inspire people to write and perform. To imply that those of us who perform our words are somehow 'lesser', that the mere fact of performance means that ipso facto the work has somehow to be less 'valuable' than if it is simply destined for the page, that a listening audience is not as discerning as a reading one, is horribly patronising.

The problem with these poetry awards is that it IS the same people all judging and praising each other, and very few of them cut any ice in the wider world from where I'm looking (but then I'm looking outwards rather than inwards into a tiny wine glass strewn ghetto!)

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Tommy Carroll

Sun 4th Oct 2015 00:51

Poets policing poets,
Friends of friends
back scratching,
your turn to win,
poems mean prizes,
thousands of poems
read in a month...as if.

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Graham Sherwood

Sat 3rd Oct 2015 17:19

But that has always been my point MCN. Performance poetry is ALL about the performance and not the work itself.

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M.C. Newberry

Sat 3rd Oct 2015 12:28

I'll begin by stating an "interest" insofar that on a topic
of personal appeal - the poetry of Wilfred Owen - I once
submitted a poem to mark his life and work. However,
I have considerable respect for the views and achievements of Attila the Stockbroker on the subject
The existence of "competition" in poetry is itself
contentious. To judge one concept and its expression
against another is a bit like throwing snowballs into a fire.
If commercial gain is an aim, then poets should be
researching markets...willing to fund the promotion of their efforts along the way.
These competitions and their prizes seem little more
than a cosy conceit - a useful "earner" for those so eloquently described by Attila.

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attila the stockbroker

Sat 3rd Oct 2015 11:42

Oh, no, they won't like that, will they? A cosy little clique who fawn over each other - doesn't really matter though, does it, 'cos nobody outside it cares about their silly awards anyway....

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