I'm Sorry, I'm English

Had I been born Welsh,

I would be openly proud.

Good origin to have,

I could say it out loud.

And how proud I’d be

Had I been born a Scott.

The loveliest accent,

I’d like that a lot.

If from Northern Ireland,

I could say I’m Irish.

Nothing wrong with that,

I’d still get my wish.

The wish to be able

To name my country,

Where I was born,

My nationality.

I come from England,

So why can’t I say so?

I have to be British,

Not English, oh no!

Britain is four countries,

Unspecified which one,

Political correctness

Is simply no fun.

Imagine being German,

Austrian or Swiss,

Only to claim European


What other government

Would ever dictate

To denounce your country

For fear of hate?

Are we the only nation

Not to hail its saints day?

I don’t know when it is,

Can anybody say?

I love many countries,

But my own must be dense,

This extreme paranoia

Not to cause offence…

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Lynn Dye

Mon 14th Feb 2011 13:17

Gosh, Greg, only just seen this message, sorry. Agree about extremists, lowest of the low, and agree about Dad's Army too, it is the best.
I think my poem makes me sound much more patriotic than I actually am. My inspiration to write it was on reading in a puzzle magazine about a British actress. I realised she must be English, otherwise they would have stated she was Welsh or Scottish. This is where I think our pc has gone silly.

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Greg Freeman

Thu 3rd Feb 2011 08:37

I was talking about this somewhere else, Lynn, and thought of your poem. There is an unease about the concept of English patriotism caused by misuse of the flag by extremist groups, I agree. These days we are, in a sense, many nations. And patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel. On the other hand ... This may sound ridiculous, but for me, the theme tune to Dad's Army, Who Do You Think You Are Kidding, Mr Hitler?, makes me feel very happy, patriotic, proud, and sentimental, as does the show itself. There's nothing else quite like it.

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Lynn Dye

Tue 18th Jan 2011 10:26

Thank you Stella and thank you Bernard :)

Stefan, thanks for comment, you are obviously so good at both!!

Yes Tommy, of course you are right, that it is the lengths the correctness goes to that is at fault, naturally it is extremely offensive to use the word you mention. No, I can't give you a verifiable instance on your comment on flags, but then my issue was not really about flags. We are not restricted from celebrating St. George's Day, there's just not many of us that do, for whatever reason.

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Tommy Carroll

Mon 17th Jan 2011 19:47

Lynn It is not the much abused term 'political correctness' that is at issue it is the incorrect application of it. If it is politicly correct to condemn the casual usage of 'nigger' then I am 100% for it, if it is 'the banning, by councils, of the flying of flags, on health and safety grounds, then I am also 100% for it. But Lynn, please give me a verifiable instance of ANY flag in England that has been banned by a local authority of the flying of the cross of St. George on the grounds that 'some ethnic minorities may be offended'.

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Patricia and Stefan Wilde

Mon 17th Jan 2011 18:08

good poem Ma Dye-I can actually speak two languages-English and rubbish-can you guess which one I speak more fluently? shhh! ta Ma D-Stefano.xx

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bernard shelton

Mon 17th Jan 2011 17:03

well held sentiments

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Lynn Dye

Mon 17th Jan 2011 13:27

Hi Tommy, I just logged on to answer your comment, and then saw it had changed. To clarify, my poem is no way meant to be derogatory to the Welsh, Scottish or Irish, I have all 3 nationalities in my family or circle of friends. It is the British government I am really knocking and their political correctness. I am not being patriotic in saying I'm English, I am simply stating a fact.

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Tommy Carroll

Mon 17th Jan 2011 12:41


stella jones

Sun 16th Jan 2011 22:50

Aye, political correctness in all its stupid forms brasses me off too!

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