On the treadmill arguments go round,

a seeming progress,

the world goes by unaware


Our minds like cogs grinding,

attitudes, prejudices clogging up the process.


Refreshing waters of peace

so close we could drown

our sorrows in them, and yet....

and yet births and deaths come and go,

rivers flow,

our minds in contravention.






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Sat 2nd Feb 2019 21:11

Hi Lisa. When I wrote this it was a kind of relief I suppose, and the philosophical implications of not getting things into proportion, which we have recently seen. There are always winners and losers, but I am pleased you have given it a thumbs up, as this is my side of a story. I did feel stifled and stultified. We are all different, and some have of us short term effects that raise the awareness bar and capture attention by charisma and dramatic effect. I'll leave it at that.

To précis my response David I think some get addicted to their own sum total, or falling for their own version of life without having the compass or experience to realise distortions. Perhaps they are the ones most in need of signposts and obey them . Not me fella. When all is said and done, poetry is just a response to life, not life itself. Thanks for your full comment.

Good points Stu. Yes it needed to happen this way.

Jennifer, nice to have your approval.!

It's good too to get your likes: Big Shoes, Anya and Po, Jon and Phil.


jennifer Malden

Sat 2nd Feb 2019 18:37

Great work as usual Ray! Jennifer

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Stu Buck

Sat 2nd Feb 2019 07:40

hasn't it been cringe worthy ray? i feel sorry for all involved, an utter embarrassment. still, its slowly dying off!

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lisa donohoe

Sat 2nd Feb 2019 00:19

Ray try not to allow anyone to bring negativity to your work, it dampens its spirit 😃
Im well aware to whom it was pointed at. no denying it spoke volumes.

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Wolfgar Miere

Fri 1st Feb 2019 23:52

Excellent stuff Ray, such a shame people miss the point so often.

I like to think I'm attempting to shine a light, not piss on anyones cornflakes..I can't be bothered to lead people through every single meaning, at some point they just have to catch up.

It's strange to me so many people here seeking fresh starts and new beginnings. Resolutions and councils of reconcilliation, they claim they want to move forward and in the same breath make monuments to the past.

I've seen it lived, been there done it...as have others. The only way people move on is they have something to lose or have already lost something. You can see it here right now on WoL...people preaching about starting afresh and letting the past go, and then still they blatantly antagonise each other, the problem is people want to feel like they have won or that they are better than someone else. These same people write poetry about peace and love and tell our politicians what failures they are, yet they cannot even find peace over a bunch of sixth form poems....it disgusts me.....move on people.

There are countries being bombed into oblivion, kids dying from lack of food and yet self aggrandising individuals are arguing about poetry, its hilarious and disgusting simultaniously.


To the North tomorrow, then onward to Bolton Abbey in the footsteps of true poets who set their minds to meeting those of others, now there is a worthwhile cause.


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lisa donohoe

Fri 1st Feb 2019 23:06

Reading this has simply taking my breath away, So truthful and eye opening. Bravo 😃

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