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Thu 15th Nov 2018 16:58
Hi Ian, thanks for your response to my response 😀 I suppose that could go on endlessy, and why not? it’s good to talk. In many ways what you have said about soldiers being happy to be remembered whatever the colour of the petals, is what I was getting at. I think many soldiers would be happy to be remembered reverently and possibly quite silently, I sense many would not appreciate the clattering drums and blasting pipes, especially considering the crescendo and hell of their possible final hours. Who knows, and I can certainly only speak for myself on this, although I have spoken to many who reinforce that idea. Obviously there is a need for national remembrance and who am I to decide how that may be done? apart from being a surviving grunt of course. I just know I would never wear a medal or put on a uniform to attend such a parade if I ever went to one (which I will not be doing) of course I do wear a poppy (for one day only) Remembrance is for the dead and the suffering survivors of all nations (in my mind at least) not for the showing of regimental colours and medals. I find that indulgence distracting and somehow wallowing. And yes I have a string of medals, all lost in drawers and in the bottom of kit bags, they have no value whatsoever for me. I think this is an attitude many simply cannot conceive, which in itself speaks of an absence of understanding. All must be able to imagine when it comes to art that is what art is in its purest form for me, there has been a glut of poetry regarding remembrance this year, as it is the centenary of WW1 I am not surprised. Unfortunately for me so much of it has seemed voyeuristic in nature, that too is not unusual although it is disturbing to me when it is presented en masse as it seems to have been this year. I am in the fortunate/unfortunate position to be able draw on my own experiences of conflict and to have felt able to relate them through a medium of bad poetry and questionable prose, something I would not wish upon any other person but which I myself refuse to shy away from for the comfort of others. It would be refreshing to see the poetry of imagination suggest alternate images other than poppy fields and the same old churned out funereal inevitable imagery, I would have thought some of us living in this age might be able to translate our musings into hope of some sort. I will be attempting this myself hopefully in future. I very much appreciate your concluding words in what you have written Ian. I am very fortunate that besides Captain Jamesons I have a good network of people to sustain me during my now infrequent wobbles. Thanks again and have no doubt that whatever my misgivings may be about how we remember I would never deny anyones right to do it in whatever way they thought appropriate, or to write about it and express their emotions on it likewise. All the best mate.
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Sun 14th Oct 2018 11:15
cheers Sal - and thanks for the great review - I genuinely do write everything as poems first - and then take a big pile of paper into the studio and think 'what the fuck am I going to do with this'
Sat 13th Oct 2018 19:58
Good to see you going strong with the music, and keeping up the vibe!
I always thought that was great how you transitioned the poems over to song format.
Thu 16th Aug 2018 23:19
great to see you still going strong. Just wanted to pop by and share my appreciation of Be-Bop Deluxe.
Mate I saw them at De-Montfort Halls in Leicester, must have been the 70's. I was a huge fan of Bill Nelson, though he was very strange, even enjoyed his subsequent solo projects, in truth though he was Be-bop.
Anyway thought I might share one of my favourite pieces of theirs with you, the guitar solo is sublime, and I am sure you appreciate the title and sentiment of this amazing piece of music.
I hope you still have many adventures in a Yorkshire landscape ahead of you, enjoy mate.
And just for the sheer joy of it Ian, this one....enough to bring an old bugger to tears, haha,
PS, Live in the air age is an absolute British classic.
Fri 27th Jul 2018 17:40
Hi Ian - welcome back.
From a UK's point of view, fascism has never taken real
root in the public consciousness. The likes of Moseley and
William Joyce were more often viewed with derision and
a healthy distrust/distaste. The strutting was never likely
to be popular here with so many absolute power kings and
dictators to call upon, allied to a sense of humour that
can drive the uninitiated potty!
Far more insidious perhaps was the far left secretive POV
that saw traitors and their sympathisers consorting in
Cambridge and/or in unsuspecting trusting high society,
suddenly to come to wider public attention when their unexpected departure for "unfriendly shores" signalled something amiss...when not attending to the Queen's
collection of art works, of course. 😌
Fri 13th Jul 2018 14:35
Hello Ian - apropos your note on my profile page - I accept
your point. It is my point that the extremism which often
features in ideologies is the real enemy, whether on the
left or right of the political spectrum - and it is this that
causes so much suffering. The lingering suspicion (for me)
is that prior to the knowledge of what was going on behind
the Iron Curtain - and has happened since in Cambodia
and elsewhere, this extremism was largely refuted or
ignored in the hurry to place fascism at the forefront of
the foes threatening humanity. Now, we are all that much
more aware - and a good thing too.
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Thu 21st Jun 2018 19:29
Hi Ian, thanks for the explanation about 'Strange Fruit'. Glad to hear you had a relaxing internet free holiday. It's good to switch off every now and then but I have to admit I find it hard. All the best, Col.
Thu 5th Apr 2018 10:35
Thank you so much for your comment on my profile! I love your work!
Sat 31st Mar 2018 16:16
Just wanted to thank you, and tell you how inspiring you are!
Sat 5th Aug 2017 08:59
you might like to catch this tonight Ian - documentary about Hedd Wyn on BBC2 at 9pm.
jean lucy thompson
Tue 1st Aug 2017 09:06
Thanx Ian and well done you for all your work and accomplishments within
the poetry scene
Mon 21st Nov 2016 15:54
The Everyman (down in the bar) you`d like it...plenty of young folk there....I think it`s the second Monday of the month.
Fri 7th Oct 2016 12:15
Aye I remember that 😃
Deffo - trilogy sounds perfect! It'll come!
Mon 6th Jun 2016 13:20
Hi Ian, Thanks for your poem above, some lines leapt into life there - a great read. All the best, Paul
Tue 10th May 2016 04:41
Hi Ian, thanks for reading commenting on Implosion explosion. Much appreciated.
Sun 1st May 2016 21:52
Re S#n right, correct and bloody hope so. Love in perpetuity Tommy (ahem)
Tue 19th Jan 2016 10:51
hi ian, reading it in a whole new 'light' now. very clever. a sad week indeed.
Tue 12th Jan 2016 05:53
Thank you for welcoming me back in my new guise.
Tue 27th Oct 2015 21:46
Hi Ian - thanks for the response about "We are the Dead"
on my profile page. I didn't assume it was about you...
more an "Ode to Opportunities Missed When Alive" from
my own POV.
The sweep of those is such that most of us are content/
sentenced to settle for less, relishing simpler things.
When I mentioned "response" in my opening line, it was
meant that the extent of the comprehensive content
was something of a challenge in that wider context and
might obtain comment(s) accordingly...nothing more.
By the way - I like "Bard Company" as a title. It reminds
me of "Bad Company" - a Western from some years ago
about youth falling prey to the same.
Good to note your busy future performance schedule.
Tue 27th Oct 2015 20:11
Thanks for getting in touch. My apologies for commenting rather too directly on your piece "We are the dead" I don't think I meant it to be directed at you the author, but reading it back it certainly seems so, and that was careless if not a little thoughtless of me. I must admit I did revisit what I wrote, and thought I had been a little harsh and possibly preachy, so thanks for giving me the opportunity for redressing that. Now you have explained how you wrote it, it is completely obvious to me, and I do enjoy the poem.
Thanks for putting me straight and taking the time to do so.
PS, I do read and enjoy your work even though I have not commented regularly.
Sun 18th Oct 2015 20:00
Hi Ian, back again for further comment . The poem you wrote certainly engendered a lot of discussion. You have pointed out a very good point about singer songwriters getting paid but not a poet. This is obviously a right liberty. I am a muso but choose not to sing - as I find the average offering full of bile and remorse and self pity and all the negatives of life. Why pay to hear that? I find also a lot of poetry hard to listen to back to back in open mike because of distractions - soda siphons, etc.
If there is money to be made, yes hand it out. Personally I don't expect to make money but that's not an opinion that's a fact. Cheers for now!!
Thu 14th May 2015 10:06
:) It's a great poem, I just read it through again.
Thanks for your note on Majority too - aye, had thought of a couple of the lines when I found out about the majority, and it bloody lashed it down all day. Then that 'blue collar' shit's all over the radio and they're banging on about job numbers being up when in reality it's just one job divvied up into 4 zero hours contract jobs. Spitting mad. Looking forward to the one that I can hear forming in your head ha :)
Fri 13th Mar 2015 12:40
Ha - cross posting :)
Thanks for y'note on me tree pome :) I was having a bit of a go at Wordsworth's idea that we lose our 'visionary gleam' when we get older. Remember I mentioned it in The Raven that time? Anyway, fuck Wordsworth :D
Fri 6th Mar 2015 09:22
Well, I have to say that the 'sitting on it' and the work you've put into it clearly show. It is really well crafted. More of this sort of thing! ;)
Cynthia Buell Thomas
Mon 15th Dec 2014 19:24
Masks have a hard time getting past the eyes, or the knuckles: they speak clearly. I'm trying to find an old Christmas one of my own. I know it's tucked away somewhere. Pity I can't quote it from memory; I'm just plain terrible like that.
Fri 21st Nov 2014 12:20
Ah! you got me there Ian. I'm not as in the know about all these forms as yourself. It's a good tribute to somewhere I never knew but read a lot about.
I hope your new home does you all justice!
Sat 25th Oct 2014 00:35
Thank you Ian for commenting on all things green, my recent post.
My guess is you have been there yourself. Anyways, if you have not, then you have most certainly inspired me to keep writing.
Sun 24th Aug 2014 04:23
Good to hear you are so active with your war
poem project/recordings. You are in good
company. My brother recently gave me a double
CD by "Show of Hands" with music and poems of
"The Great War", the latter read by Jim Carter
and his wife Imelda Staunton. The Sunday Express gave it a big thumbs up!
Tue 19th Aug 2014 23:15
good stuff mate appreciated my music taste is very diverse and wide ranging (dance to dvorak or dependent on the day blues to buffalo) and currently listening on soundcloud ;-)given that im not too prolific in my offerings im not on here as often as i might be but i shall continue to frequent from time to time and have a read (and a listen) keep on keeping on :-)
Wed 30th Jul 2014 10:10
You most definitely do 'get your meaning across' without a 'dig'. Trust yourself.
Thank you for responding, because I know I have more crust than burnt toast and it can really get me into trouble.
Fri 25th Jul 2014 15:59
Hiya Ian I forgot to thank you earlier for ''I leant against the wall'' cheers mate. Tommy
Fri 25th Jul 2014 13:17
A peaceful world is the best aim - but it seems
that ever since Cain and Abel were at odds, Man
has been following their example. The strangest thing about war is that much progress
seems to follow its horrors - a sort of awful
"leaps and bounds" scenario. Maybe it is our
fate to be aware yet be captive of our tendency
towards taking advantage or taking a position and not budging. Is this some form of cosmic
joke at Mankind's expense? I sometimes wonder.
Fri 18th Jul 2014 17:32
Ian, I enjoyed seeing you again too. That evening I suddenly felt very weird, and decided to leave without ceremony. Walking home seemed to clear my head, so I'm not sure what happened. That first hour I was not able to hear very well, and was blaming a fuzzy microphone; but maybe not. Who knows.
Fri 27th Jun 2014 15:27
Hello Ian - following up on your post on my
profile page. I went to the audio link you
provided and enjoyed the tune...shades of Bob
Dyland meets Pete Seeger! However-and this is
a general complaint in today's music age:
the instrumental overwhelmed the lyric. I may
be a bit muttn'jeff these days but your words
seemed somewhere in another room, so to speak.
This is a common failing today when recordings
are done by those who are less receptive or
sympathetic to the vocal than to the instruments and tend to give the latter more
prominence than they should. This was not met
in recordings made when I was younger and
vocalists were the stars, and lyrics told a story where you could hear every word..."up
Ged the Poet
Fri 27th Jun 2014 14:30
Ian. Thanks for taking the time to have a rummage at my work. I am made up with your kind encouragement.
I took the opportunity to check out your link to soundcloud earlier today. Superb stuff. I'm looking forward to getting a copy of your Great War (WW1) album when you finish recording and it comes out.
I have tried, and struggle, with haiku poetry but I must take my hat off to you with Passchendaele (Autumn 1917). Difficult and emotive subject yet captured magnificently.
Thu 12th Jun 2014 15:05
Hi m8 are you going to Cadence Friday night
Thu 22nd May 2014 16:36
Hola! Cheers chuck - yeh, it is a bit innit, like Fire in that momentum thingydoodah :D
Wed 14th May 2014 15:11
I might text Ian I did the fest last year. Yea bit of a low profile of late. Have posted a new poem yesterday though. Catch you soon I heard you were on in Wigan and may get to Tudor soon
Wed 14th May 2014 14:56
Hey Ian how's it going
Sun 11th May 2014 10:33
interesting poetry choice for the Desert Island, I didn't know Heaney's The Forge. Reminded me of an old favourite of his that I might have included:
Caedmon too I was lucky to have known,
Back in situ there with his full bucket
And armfuls of clean straw, the perfect yardman,
Unabsorbed in what he had to do
But doing it perfectly, and watching you.
He had worked his angel stint. He was hard as nails
And all that time he’d been poeting with the harp
His real gift was the big ignorant roar
He could still let out of him, just bogging in
As if the sacred subjects were a herd
That had broken out and needed rounding up.
I never saw him once with his hands joined
Unless it was a case of eyes to heaven
And the quick sniff and test of fingertips
After he’d passed them through a sick beast’s water.
Oh, Caedmon was the real thing all right.
Mon 28th Apr 2014 11:58
Ian, I'm so sorry to have missed your slot at Sale, Waterside. My allergies knocked me flat - tree pollen probably.
Sun 20th Apr 2014 22:00
Well, I hope it's nice for you. Trust me, when you've lived in Plymouth for a long time, Bristol does feel a lot closer to the action!
Sun 20th Apr 2014 17:17
Oh nice. Whereabouts? Last time I holidayed in Dorset was in a holiday park between Sandford and Wareham one February. It rained. A lot! :( Hope you have a fun time in better weather. I've actually recently moved to Bristol, slightly closer to the centre of things!
Fri 4th Apr 2014 10:43
I liked you Norse poem, added to Laura's blog, the Bitter Skald. "Necrotic spots" directly touches branch and limb. We're barking up the same tree!
It is a fantastic world picture, the world tree, resilient but vulnerable: one can't help but think of Ash Die Back in global terms - though I hadn't realised yggdrasil is the Giant Ash until recently.
The idea of the 3 sisters at the well of destiny daubing the trunk with mud to protect the tree from disease somehow points at once to ancient knowledge, modern helplessness.
I better look through your poems...
All the best, Dom.
Mon 17th Mar 2014 15:19
Ian - no worries. I know a little of Tony Benn, but enough to know just how strong he was as a political personality - certainly someone not afraid to speak their mind. I can imagine him being a hero to many, not least to those of a poetic voice.
You are blatantly a rock star. One of the biggest on here, if I may be so bold. It's clear to see and shouting itself out loud :)
Sun 16th Mar 2014 15:29
Checked your stuff on Youtube, thanks for the link. Really quite impressive, actually! Especially 'The Westgate Run' on the Wakefield Word Walk.
Wed 26th Feb 2014 18:34
No worries Ian. You seem to be keeping busy at least! I've 'followed' you on Soundcloud recently. Some pretty decent stuff there!
Fri 17th Jan 2014 19:32
Congratulations on last night`s guest spot.
Enjoyed it hugely, and your delivery was excellent (and the poems)
I wish you many more of them.
Thu 19th Dec 2013 09:41
Glad to be of service.
I was hoping to come but have been stricken with lurgy and am having to come into work, which makes the whole thing drag on and makes me feel incredibly sorry for myself. I'm deaf, lacking all energy, my head feels swollen to buggery, and my nose is a tap. Also, I am hugely grumpy as I don't cope well with being ill at all. Attractive, eh? So - I'll have to see how I feel. I do love the band and your poetry.
Try and get someone to film it for you. Would be good to have something like that anyway, and then if I don't get to go, I can watch it :)
Have fun anyway mate :) xx
Wed 18th Dec 2013 09:50
Cheers Ian, re your note on Writing in Fire. Beltin night eh? See thee soon fella, take care x
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