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Tommy Carroll

Mon 14th Jan 2013 23:30

THIS?

#1 Rachel- ''I have my own genres.'' Tae Kwon Do or butchery may resolve your need for 'poeticide' ;o). I do re-read my own stuff regularly- and sometimes also feel a distance between 'us' both. Maybe that is the sign of nascent maturity?
10/01/12

#2 Rachel- re your post to myself; have you not considered that your poetry may be 'universal' and therefore have value to an unknown reader?
09/01/12

#3 poeticide is a good word. i keep the ones that are important. some get deletisized.the genre thing is really to say i have a distance from a lot of my subjects but make them personal. some turn out to be something i want to keep personal. sometimes i write for me. sometimes for others, but i agree that nascent maturity allows for me to see that sometimes what i write is an elaborate escape and sometimes i like to keep it real.
11/1/12

4# yes tommy i have thought about that and i agree, its really why i continue to post or write at all. however i also believe in the field of dreams...'build and they will come' only in this case instead of building a big baseball park i clear out my old poems to make way for the new. fresh ideas. in art i work sequentially, ideas build change and develop. with writing i like to write as if ive never written anything before. which is why some read like that. i like to write with different 'voices' from different perspectives and let styles work together. i have my own genres.
9/1/12

#5 'new me.' sometimes i read back old poems and they have become that. outdated thinking, old thought processes. i like to clear em out and start again with a fresh page hoping for inspiration. thanks for asking x

#6 tommy, its a tough one. i believe that if something is written and posted and it offends which all sorts of material is likely to do on all sorts of grounds..i think the writer should be held accountable to their readers as would be with published work. here a comments system operates.so if i were to offend i would personally feel obliged to defend, explain my writing. sometimes its an agree to differ situation. if someone were to post something inciting hatred be it racial, concerning disability, whatever i still beilieve it should stand and be criticised. As such it offers an exampler of its inadequacy as an idea. if someone were to post sexually inapropriate material i believe there should be a standard of censure based on the accessibility of this site to young people as a moral obligation.
concerning freedom of speech once blogged this goes out to the world potentially. Its a gift but just a medium. free media..is up for exploitation like anything else. I think we can only measure our own writing. I have only ever once been offended by a slight comment on this site and ive been a member for years. I think that a sign of its credibility and the level of responsibility of its writers.
Thanks for posting this.
8/10/11

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Rachel Bond

Mon 14th Jan 2013 22:27

hi tommy...now im sorry but you put an interesting comment on my profile and its been so long since i was on here that ive forgotten to which, what, who it refers?? please remind x

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M.C. Newberry

Mon 14th Jan 2013 17:46

Thanks Yvonne - I guess that the "Creator" must have decided that love per se was not conducive to progress or else humans might be inclined to stay happy in a state of commonly enjoyed conviviality and go nowhere in the greater scheme of things. Would that be so bad, I ask?! Instead, we seem to have been programmed to have the capacity but not the total commitment...a sort of emotional half-way house of "one kiss forward...two kicks back"; and vice-versa.

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M.C. Newberry

Mon 14th Jan 2013 17:17

I have ambivalent thoughts about the mining industry. I accept its importance as a mainstay of the industrial might that propelled this small country to the fore in other days, yet feel immense sympathy for those men (and boys!) who worked in it, and the animals that had even less of a choice. Who, I have always wondered, would WANT to work as a miner? And with that in mind, I have also wondered why there should be such resistance to seeing the end of such a dangerous and debilitating way of life...especially if it offered the chance of another existence, helped by a financial incentive. There must be plenty of people seeking the opportunity to strike out on their own OR choose a different way of earning a living...even it it means moving elsewhere. But maybe that is the biggest hurdle for so many...moving elsewhere. Is it the fear of leaving what you know - a close-knit community in work however mean and hazardous - for the unknown of a wider world? This may be a "northern" trait as I recall that the tin miners of Cornwall became well known in other lands - seemingly willing to export their particular expertise.
Not a calling for the claustrophobic - and I wonder about life insurance rates!!

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Harry O'Neill

Mon 14th Jan 2013 15:48


Anne,

Thanks for the re-welcome( as warm as your
well-remembered first one)

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Ann Foxglove

Mon 14th Jan 2013 14:00

Hi Ludo - a warm welcome to SWOL - hope you enjoy the site.

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Ann Foxglove

Mon 14th Jan 2013 13:58

Hi - and a very warm welcome to WOL. Hope you enjoy the site :)

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Ann Foxglove

Mon 14th Jan 2013 13:55

Hi Tom - welcome to WOL. Good luck with thatr hit single! Hope to see (and maybe hear) more of your work on here soon.

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Ann Foxglove

Mon 14th Jan 2013 13:53

Hi Harry - looking forward to seeing more of your candle boats of poetic endeavor on here soon ;)

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Fkx

Mon 14th Jan 2013 09:29

Thank you, kindly. I am most appreciative of your visit & honest response.

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Katy Megan Hughes

Mon 14th Jan 2013 07:44

: ) lol!!

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John Coopey

Sun 13th Jan 2013 22:01

Oi! I heard that!

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Isobel

Sun 13th Jan 2013 21:39

I'm delighted to hear that there is a simple explanation for you disappearing like that :)

Re photo - any will do - how lucky are you not to be visually challenged - like what John Coopey is... ;)

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John Coopey

Sun 13th Jan 2013 21:16

...that comment about trying to find a photo that does justice...
...best keep looking!

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Harry O'Neill

Sun 13th Jan 2013 21:11

Isobel,
Your chat request kept coming up and I kept ticking `allow` but nout happened and as a computer thick `ead I didn`t know what to do next.

(I presume it was to do with old stupido deleting himself off the profiles by accident)If it was anything else let`s know.

(I`ll add a photo when I can find one that does Justice, homage, adoration, etc; to my immense good looks)

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Isobel

Sun 13th Jan 2013 20:36

Thanks for your comment on my FB poem Cathy. Yes - speaking to the wall is a strange concept - you ARE speaking to yourself - but at the same time everyone you ever knew - from the person you met in a lift a day or so ago to someone you haven't seen since your first job 20 years ago... Facebook is a crazy crazy place!

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Nigel Astell

Sun 13th Jan 2013 18:04

Sexy lady
Seductive glasses
Poetry book
Would love
To borrow
Mind you
I might
Just get
Stuck on
Page three.

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John Coopey

Sun 13th Jan 2013 17:47

Thanks for your comments on "You've Met The Met", Laura.

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John Coopey

Sun 13th Jan 2013 17:46

Hello Harry,
Thanks for your thoughts on "You've Met The Met". Time was when the NUM were a significant if not enormous power. In their time, leaders like Gormley and Scargill were names everybody had heard of; likewise Vic Feather or Len Murray.
Who knows who the President of the TUC is these days, let alone a piddling little union like the NUM.

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John Coopey

Sun 13th Jan 2013 17:41

Hello MC,
Thanks for your thoughts on "You've Met The Met". My own role in the strike as a manager was to help staff the pits on a care and maintenance basis, preventing them fopm gassing up or flooding so there'd be something for the miners to come back to!

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Hazel

Sun 13th Jan 2013 00:28

Hi Cynthia thanks for your comment on Robert Burns, I like a lot of he's work.
Hazel

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Sat 12th Jan 2013 23:09

Hi again Shirley and thank you so much for the wonderful news regarding little Isabella.

It has no doubt lifted your spirits as well.

An awful thing for the whole family to have to endure.Good luck and good health to you all.

Patricia and Stef.xx..XX for Isabella.

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Tom Harding

Sat 12th Jan 2013 19:51

Hi Lynn,

Thanks as usual for your comments on 'Paxos'

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Tom Harding

Sat 12th Jan 2013 19:50

Hi Cynthia,
Thanks for the comments on Paxos. The 'He' is the stick insect... he was awkward and not at all graceful and therefore seemed naturally a male!

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John Coopey

Sat 12th Jan 2013 17:59

Like I said, Tommy, that's the problem with polaristion. Consider this; if the story had ended with the bobby nutting the collier would it have still been "an amusing anecdote"?

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Tommy Carroll

Sat 12th Jan 2013 17:47

John
there were indeed 'cruel bastards' (your words) among the miners- a 'cruel' and dangerous and underpaid profession that breeds both resentment to their exploitation and pride in their work. This condition can be found generally among sections of the working-class. But that is a secondary issue- too many people ignore the main issue of pit-closures, pay and conditions- any talk of such is, frankly - a distraction.
As for Scargill '' I wouldn't trust his wisdom on things he knew nothing about (the science of fuel technology).''(your words) The NUM had employed creditable scientific reports on such matters, supported by the scientific community generally.
On the tactics, yes there were things he should have done - giving Welsh miners the chance to discuss and campaign amongst themselves - before putting to a ballot.
Also there was discontent. In the 1982 strike ballot over threatened Welsh pits (the Yorkshire area, which came out first in 1984) voted against. This caused some confusion and bitterness among South Wales miners at the start of the 1984-85 strike. John the working class are not a homoginised group but will need a clear, resourceful and strong leadership.

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Cynthia Buell Thomas

Sat 12th Jan 2013 17:39

I do have some catching up to do. What an impressive profile.

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Sat 12th Jan 2013 16:28

Cheers Lynn for comments on our page.xx

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John Coopey

Sat 12th Jan 2013 10:34

Tommy,
Thanks for your thoughts on "You've Met The Met".
Arthur Scargill didn't know a lot about the things he should have known about (Leadership, the tactics of a strike, etc). I certainly wouldn't trust his wisdom on things he knew nothing about (the science of fuel technology).
The problem with polarisation is that you necessarily see things depending on your own perspective as sitting between a set of cruel bastards and the horny-handed heroes. I can assure you there were plenty of cruel bastards among the blokes I worked with.

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Fkx

Sat 12th Jan 2013 07:37

Thanks Tom, for reading and responding to my poetry. Your interaction is most welcome and greatly appreciated. I will get on to your other poems as well, time permitting. It shall be a busy year! Good stuff unfolding. See you 'round the site or better yet on our poems. Cheers.

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Fkx

Sat 12th Jan 2013 07:25

Thank you kindly, Cynthia, for your encouragement and assessment of my poem on cigarette haze. I am grateful to you and much inspired to seek furthering my ventures into poetry. May you have a continued happy new year.

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Fkx

Fri 11th Jan 2013 22:55

Oh, but my FB chat is permanently turned off! Must be force of habit. I barely have time enough to sort out posts & statuses, messages, & all that, without having to worry about chitter chatter.Have a pleasant weekend!

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Greg Freeman

Fri 11th Jan 2013 20:14

Perhaps I should explain my remarks about Sooty, John. For me, it's all down to the moment at the end of each programme when Harry Corbett addresses the audience, his face covered in gunk, and says, with an expression of world-weary stoicism: "Bye bye, everybody, bye bye." It has come a family catchphrase in our household; a moment when no other words will do. I don't remember much of the rest of it.

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tony sheridan

Fri 11th Jan 2013 20:04

Hi Tom. Thanks for your comment on The Rapids. I have just checked out Gary Snyder on youtube. Many thanks for that. Take care, Tony.

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Fri 11th Jan 2013 19:49

Hi Tom-thanks for your feedback on 'A Tradition Saved', I'm pleased you are enjoying the tales.
Tall tales? Stranger things happen out there at sea!

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Fri 11th Jan 2013 19:08

Many thanks Tom re 'Voyager'
means a lot,coming from thee.xx

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Tom Harding

Fri 11th Jan 2013 18:46

Hi Isobel,

Thanks for the comment on Paxos, much appreciated!

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Fri 11th Jan 2013 18:25

Cheers loads Cath(it happens)
piece of advice-re inadvertant walkies
keep away from lovers leap!xx

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Fri 11th Jan 2013 14:24

Thanks for your feedback on 'A Tradition Saved' John-I have remedied the unforgivably sloppy non use of paragraphs. If Master Miles had seen that he would've nailed me to the mast by me ears!

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Tommy Carroll

Fri 11th Jan 2013 11:55

Kathy ( Hi :o) )you have now edged out Laura as my favoorite person. I will en-devour to teach, amuse and enlighten you regarding humour.
Call me on my private number anytime except Wednesdays and Saturdays evening as I will be shopping at Tesco's.

Tommy. (Bachelor)

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tony sheridan

Fri 11th Jan 2013 10:03

Hi Christina. Thanks for your comment on First Class Ticket. Glad you like it. Take care, Tony.

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John Coopey

Thu 10th Jan 2013 18:16

Hello MC
Glad you liked "Gays". I was rather quick off the mark with that one!

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John Coopey

Thu 10th Jan 2013 18:12

Hello Greg,
Thanks for your comments on "Gays".
You have made your preferences plain!
SOOTY!!! BLOODY SOOTY!!!

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John Coopey

Thu 10th Jan 2013 18:09

Hello Yvonne,
Thankyou for commenting on "Gays".
There is an old (rather politically incorrect) joke about 2 blokes in a pub. The 1st one says he is emigrating. His mate says "That's a surprise" and asks him "Why?".
"Queers" his friend replies.
"How do you mean?"
"Well" he explains, "500 years ago they were burnt at the stake; 200 years ago they were hanged;100 years ago an man like Oscar Wilde was imprisoned; 50 years ago it could ruin a man's political career; 10 years ago it was still in the closet. I'm off before they make it compulsory".
Myself, I am more liberal but would not welcome compulsion!

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John Coopey

Thu 10th Jan 2013 18:01

Hello Dave,
Thanks for your thoughts on "Gays".
I have to confess that I don't have strong views either way re the gay community but to try to police a "no sex" rule seems rather laughable. On another front, this may come as a little surprise to you given my rather irreverent and often downright crude writings, but I am actually a verger for Selby Abbey!

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Isobel

Thu 10th Jan 2013 14:46

Thanks for your lovely comment. It was actually quite liberating to write something unpoetic LOL - why on Earth have I taken up this poetry hobby, I ask myself...?

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Luke Williams

Wed 9th Jan 2013 23:20

sometimes. In the poem the first expect should be crossed out but still there but couldn't get that to happen in that text box

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Fkx

Wed 9th Jan 2013 22:46

Thank you for your kind response, Isobel, on "Gotta Keep On." It was written with a friend in mind, who has been struggling with a debilitating behavioural illness. And all the medics could do is aid them take it a day at a time. I have thus likened it to the anguished vagabond soul of an artist. You are much appreciated.

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otlastark

Wed 9th Jan 2013 21:52

I loved this short poem. Although I couldn't really read trhough it without replacing first "Accept" by "Except". It made more sense to me this way.

Sometimes when I write a poem, I write down one word, but latter I realise I meant a different word with similar sonority and that different word makes perfect sense anf fits forever.. Does it happen to you?

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Tommy Carroll

Wed 9th Jan 2013 21:42

It's typical of a woman to complain about the generalizing of women.


How Do I count the shoes?

How do I love my shoes? Let me count the ways.
I love their comfort and style and price.
When my foot can slip in easily, when kicking out of sight foolish Insults and remarks.
I love them for their shine and waterproofing,
Quiet in the walking, by sun and LED torch-light.
I love the comfort as men do strive for Comfort.
I love their fashionability, as they bask In praise.
I love them with a passion when put to good use
In my old briefs, and with my manhood's faith And daily needs.
I love them with a love I show to women
With my swanky gait. I love them with the breath I breathe upon their shine,
The smiles of their buying and tears if their life comes to an end. And if I could be bothered, I shall love them even after recycling.

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