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Tomás Ó Cárthaigh

Wed 11th Jan 2012 16:41

I love the English Rhyming couplet format of the poem, and of course the poem itself.

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Hazel

Wed 11th Jan 2012 16:30

MC thank you for your input. I do tend to change verses round or lines that I wrote ages ago.

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Hazel

Wed 11th Jan 2012 15:18

Hello MC 'I'm looking up at the stars', I changed the last one not sure if it works though.

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Dave Bradley

Wed 11th Jan 2012 15:03

I like the poem too, though take the point about celebrity. CAD clearly couldn't write a poem for every murder victim in the country, so she has written one (and a very good one) for the murder that has had the nation's attention. Isn't that the sort of thing a Poet laureate is meant to do? It must involve being influenced by our celebrity culture and media shenanigins. There's no easy way round that, except maybe balancing writing about the headlines with writing about obscure events and people as well.

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Val Cook

Wed 11th Jan 2012 14:25

As a mother myself I feel this short poem speaks volumes.

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Larisa Rzhepishevska

Wed 11th Jan 2012 14:19

Oh, dear Cynthia! You are so right! I also feel sorry for those who didn't dance under the rain, who didn't feel the kiss of the falling snow, who didn't feel and experienced that exhilaration.

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Ray Miller

Wed 11th Jan 2012 14:14

Thing is though, Isobel, you "explain" for one and you do so for all. Then you miss out on all the weird and wonderful "explanations" that others come up with and that make your poems so much more interesting than they really are.Happy New Year!

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Ray Miller

Wed 11th Jan 2012 14:04

I'd not thought of that, Greg, but yes it is quite Blackesque but he'd probably employ more enjambment.

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Isobel

Wed 11th Jan 2012 14:00

Oh dear - and my new year's resolution is not to comment on poetry I don't understand...

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Greg Freeman

Wed 11th Jan 2012 13:45

Homage to Mr Black, perhaps?

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Isobel

Wed 11th Jan 2012 13:28

Well we are all entitled to our opinions MC. Like Winston says, the poem has got us all talking. How many past Poet Laureate poems have done that?

I don't think CAD was profiting from a high profile murder case. I think that she was probably just deeply moved by imagining what that mother had gone through. Perhaps you would have to be a woman to get it and I'm not having a go at men for that. I think many of us are just wired differently.

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Cynthia Buell Thomas

Wed 11th Jan 2012 13:27

That rush of deep sensuous pleasure in the falling of snow pulses through your poem. One can only feel sorry for those who have never experienced such exhilaration. And age makes no difference.

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Cynthia Buell Thomas

Wed 11th Jan 2012 13:22

Kealan, I think you are full of Romance, just not the Women's Weekly kind ... more the Burn for Experience of all kinds. Romance is a much maligned word.

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M.C. Newberry

Wed 11th Jan 2012 13:19

This is a "celebrity" type of poem, making
something of one case of murder among many
that go unreported and unsolved. For that reason alone I disregard it.


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Cynthia Buell Thomas

Wed 11th Jan 2012 13:11

An engaging resume, Lynn, on an excellent subject. Although, how COULD anyone tell her 'how beautiful the world is'? It sure makes the reader think long and carefully.

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Cynthia Buell Thomas

Wed 11th Jan 2012 13:03

As always, I do enjoy your imaginative scope, and I find this very interesting. To be honest, I think it is a bit 'unfinished'. Would you consider leaving out all punctuation? IMO,your word order is very self explanatory, and the roll of such fine words could then flow unimpeded. My thesaurus is a constant companion, and I use it often to find the exact word to express an elusive idea.

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Isobel

Wed 11th Jan 2012 12:59

Sorry to get anal again :) but there is a place called 'Croucher's Bottom'. I've never been there but my mum and dad did and they took a picture of themselves crouching down/over, next to the sign.

You can see where I get my sense of humour from now :)

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Cynthia Buell Thomas

Wed 11th Jan 2012 12:40

Wonderfully 'nothing at all' and 'everything you can think of' both at the same time. What a zany metaphor for Christmas 'family get-togethers'!

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steve mellor

Wed 11th Jan 2012 12:40

keep running and dodging Dave
wait until there's a 5 at the end, in the year that you write.
what rhymes with 5? 'alive' thank god

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Isobel

Wed 11th Jan 2012 12:38

I like her poem. Leaving race out of it, I can identify with any mother's quest for justice - and that is what the poem is about. The death of the officer at Broadwater was tragic and sickening but it isn't topical - Stephen Lawrence is - he was just an innocent boy going about his daily life.

I love poetry that means something, that makes you feel - this poem does.

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Laura Taylor

Wed 11th Jan 2012 12:37

Hola Cynth!

Hey thanks for your note on Tigerella :)

My daughter was born breech, but I was cut so didn't rip (ouch!!). I still tease her for being awkward and coming out arse first into the world hehe :D Fifteen-odd students and a top consultant at the business end...you have no shame after that!

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Cynthia Buell Thomas

Wed 11th Jan 2012 12:35

I really like the exuberance of this, the killing details, the pain and the joy.

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Jeff Dawson

Wed 11th Jan 2012 12:20

Hi Laura, thanx for your comment on Seven Billion Reasons, great feedback, yes I still ponder over it and if I think hard it still blows my mind. I wanted to build up a crescendo in the poem with the numbers throughout reducing to one. Yes I dont think we appreciate it enough, anyway glad you liked it, hope to see you soon, WOL on Sunday! X

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Graham Sherwood

Wed 11th Jan 2012 12:20

Hello Cynthia, thank you for taking the time to comment on Falling. You've been away too long.

regards,

Graham

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Cynthia Buell Thomas

Wed 11th Jan 2012 12:19

Val, my single word for the God idea is 'attitude'. I enjoyed this.

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Graham Sherwood

Wed 11th Jan 2012 12:18

First of all, I am no fan of Ms Duffy's work. That said I think that she should be allowed to write about anything she chooses. As to quality, taking WOL as an example, we are all allowed to be variable in our output.
For me the biggest problem is the matter of the position itself. A Royal Laureate is what it is, outdated and meant to be sycophantic.
I am afraid CAD will become like most of the England football team managers, subsequently wishing she hadn't taken the job in the first place. I bet the sherry is crap too!

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Cynthia Buell Thomas

Wed 11th Jan 2012 12:15

I do like the aura of this, and the imagery. Often, that impact alone is enough to make a good poem. IMO, there are some words that caused blockage, like '"recent" rain' (which didn't even seem necessary for metric count). And perhaps 'carillons' is so unusual, a musical word for hair, that its originality bothered me,rather than amazed me. And yet - it sure sticks in the mind.!

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Ray Miller

Wed 11th Jan 2012 11:53

Enjoyed the poem, the last line is good. It's maybe longer than it needs to be. I thought the middle bit, from here
Since you haven't decided to That's how you disappeared
could have been more compact, snappier. But nice all the same.

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M.C. Newberry

Wed 11th Jan 2012 11:48

Is Ms Duffy contemplating writing some lines about the officer hacked to death at Broadwater Farm and whose killers have yet to be brought to justice?

One was laid low by a single blow,
The other dismembered as the evidence will show;
The death of one - a voice for community,
The death of the other - a silent impunity.

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Ray Miller

Wed 11th Jan 2012 11:43

Yeah, wow. It's certainly an experience reading your poems. This feels as rich as Dr Zhivago.So many arresting phrases
the gulping escape
then winter is yet

to solder me infertile

some of it I find too beyond
pad your face out over a place

blank enough to erase,

for example. But as I said, an experience, memorable one.

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winston plowes

Wed 11th Jan 2012 11:41

The Guardian has made the poem available on line here -
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2012/jan/06/carol-ann-duffy-stephen-lawrence

Of course as is stated above some will like it some not, others will fall in the middle. Stepping away from the subject for a moment is this not the job of the Poet Laurieate also: To Write words that question and challenge not just our views but how we interact and feel about poetry. and on a wider topic still does the very discussion of a poem make it a piece of art? In other words does the discussion and debate become part of the piece and how it is perceived?

Oh yes... I like it.

Win.

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Cynthia Buell Thomas

Wed 11th Jan 2012 11:40

Brilliant, Laura, top-class writing. If your reference to a breach birth is just academic, I stand amazed at your insight. I would never have used 'eased' though, more like 'ripped' for me.

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Marianne Louise Daniels

Wed 11th Jan 2012 10:35

Thanks Chris, I love all things Schiele - such a beautiful soul and creator. The story around his mistress, Wally, breaks my heart. There is a collection of his letters that I have been trying to get hold of for a while.

Have you ever heard of a band called "Rachel's" (another favourite)? They put together a whole album for him. Beautiful music. Here is a snippet (if this link works)

http://youtu.be/hfqg_Pt2Pzg

Take care.

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Laura Taylor

Wed 11th Jan 2012 10:10

Interesting place names...well, Clit-heroe still makes me laugh. But then I still laugh at my own farts.

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Ray Miller

Wed 11th Jan 2012 09:59

Thanks, Steve and Greg. End of empire-ish.

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chris stevenson

Wed 11th Jan 2012 09:57

... perfect for your excellent writing ..Egon Schiele,died at 28,couple of days after his wife..very sad.

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Greg Freeman

Wed 11th Jan 2012 07:59

Jingoism, football hooligans, end of empire? David Cameron's EU veto? I enjoyed the cartoon image.

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Greg Freeman

Wed 11th Jan 2012 07:53

It's the new 40, Dave! I've got a birthday with a zero coming up this year, too. Slow train coming. But you still appear to be fleet of foot. A poem that struck a real chord with me.

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Rachel Bond

Wed 11th Jan 2012 01:16

wow i really enjoyed this...it has traces of running up that road...

i like the way your poetry is unfolding and have particularly enjoyed your recent posts.

siberia isnt cold enough
i will run as far as i collapse
and wrap in fur
the journeys task ...:)

your writing is purely poetry xx

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Rachel Bond

Wed 11th Jan 2012 01:07

poeticide is a good word. i keep the ones that are important. some get deletisized.the genre thing is really to say i have a distance from a lot of my subjects but make them personal. some turn out to be something i want to keep personal. sometimes i write for me. sometimes for others, but i agree that nascent maturity allows for me to see that sometimes what i write is an elaborate escape and sometimes i like to keep it real.

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Tommy Carroll

Wed 11th Jan 2012 01:05

cheers J.

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Matt Carter

Tue 10th Jan 2012 22:54

Thanks John, I love this! I'm going to play the audio to my son tomorrow. He's only seven, but I'm sure he'll get the general idea. ;)

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Matt Carter

Tue 10th Jan 2012 22:44

Hi Laura - thanks for your positive feedback on How Not To Receive A Compliment. Glad you liked it. x

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Isobel

Tue 10th Jan 2012 22:32

Welcome to WOL Mike! I read your bio a few days ago and the reference to the spirit level made me smile - there has to be a poem in there somewhere :)

Just turn up at the Tudor - everyone gets to perform on the night. We don't have guest slots, so have a little more time to play with than other venues - which is just as well, since it can get busy sometimes.

The venue is run by John Togher but Louise Coulson will be filling in for him over the next couple of months cos he's just had a new addition to the family :) Look forward to seeing you on Thursday. x

(And yes - teenagers can be a trial at times - like when you have to clean a house full of puke up in the early hours of a New Year...)

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Tommy Carroll

Tue 10th Jan 2012 22:23

Thank you Laura, MC, Philip. :o)

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Larisa Rzhepishevska

Tue 10th Jan 2012 21:24

'Writing free verse is like playing tennis with the net down.'

Robert Frost

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Mike Hilton

Tue 10th Jan 2012 20:46

Hi Isobel,as I'm a virgin to write out loud and the protocol of comments, blogs and electronic discussions. I've only just read your stuff i.e. Made of Love. Brilliant! I've got a 14 year old just like that. I wonder if our parents thought the same about us at that age?

I was thinking of coming to the Tudor on thursday cos I want to learn more about different styles etc. If so, whats the protocol? Do you just turn up with your stuff and put your name down for reading or do you have to contact anyone first?

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Shirley Smothers

Tue 10th Jan 2012 20:03

Powerful poem. Very well written.
Makes me remember past loves, the
good and bad ones.
Your words bring powerful images.
Great writing.

Shirley

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John Coopey

Tue 10th Jan 2012 19:59

Many thanks for you snort over Father and Son. I too have snorted when someone was sat on my face!

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John Coopey

Tue 10th Jan 2012 19:57

What ho, Isobel? Many thanks for your comments on Father and Son and Walford. I am unsure of the causality between Father and Son and the discussion I started on Better Looking Poets which was turned Feudianly by Rachel and you into a bum fantasy. If I have planted pleasing thoughts into your heads then, in the words of the hymn, "my living has not been in vain".
Unlike Father and Son (which was genuine marriage guidance counselling) Walford was pure whimsy.

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