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Wed 23rd May 2012 12:01

Thanks for commenting on First Impressions. Weirdly, I hadn't actually thought of it as a romance, more something which might have been but wasn't!

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Laura Taylor

Wed 23rd May 2012 11:57

Bang on Richie! You got it! Prism in Shade works brilliantly as a title, I love it!! Thank you :D and yes, that's what I meant. Without the light, all the beauty is lost - it's potentially there, but you need the light to see it :)

Ta cocker!

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Laura Taylor

Wed 23rd May 2012 11:54

Brilliant! You got it! Prism in Shade works brilliantly as a title!! Thank you :D and yes, that's what I meant. Without the light, all the beauty is lost - it's potentially there, but you need the light to see it :)

Ta cocker!

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darren thomas

Wed 23rd May 2012 11:50

thanks for your recent comment, Alison - i appreciate it. dt

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Martin Peacock

Wed 23rd May 2012 11:48

'A Prism In Shade' [that refracts no light, I take it to mean?] would be a great title for this, chuck. Not sure which version I prefer; I like the triplet form too.

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Laura Taylor

Wed 23rd May 2012 11:09

Oh god no Ray - I've never met you in real life but from my interaction with you on here I know you don't have one iota of prejudice in you!

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Ray Miller

Wed 23rd May 2012 10:47

Laura. I thought it were summat like that prompted the question. I just see it as I'm giving a voice to a character, same as a novelist might. I'm not Jim Davison. Mind you, I sometimes wonder how the Japanese feel about having their haikus pinched.

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Marianne Louise Daniels

Wed 23rd May 2012 10:31

Thanks for reading...lacking confidence in my own writing at the moment and getting abit lost too so understand what you mean... guess I was trying to think of how quickly things take over, how carried away and how frightening this can be too... I don't know...hmmm...

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Laura Taylor

Wed 23rd May 2012 10:25

What a fantastic night! Chris and Natalie run a tight ship and their MC Glenys takes no prisoners!

The sound was quality, it was a seamless running order, lovely intimate venue (with free parking RIGHT behind it!), some brilliant poetry and music, photos diligently taken, PLUS recordings done of performances (which is something I think other venues should have) - we WILL be back. Thanks for having us, me and Bob really enjoyed it :)

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Laura Taylor

Wed 23rd May 2012 10:21

Cheers for your reply Ray. I have to admit I do sometimes, often, feel uncomfortable about people appropriating patois.

Oh, I do like the poem btw, sorry to derail - that's not like me at all ;)

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Laura Taylor

Wed 23rd May 2012 10:19

I really liked most of the first verse, and the last two. I got lost a bit int middle.

I love the concept of the gaze though - great subject to write about.

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Ray Miller

Wed 23rd May 2012 10:18

Thanks, Greg. I think your poem is very fine. This is not so much a poem as an anthem, a national anthem, me hopes.

Laura. Writing in patios is fine in weather like dis, but when wind and rain come, me dread.

Ah, patois, me see!Ting is, I hear it in me head like dis sometimes. All de fault o' watching Rastamouse. It suit me righteous indignation.

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Marianne Louise Daniels

Wed 23rd May 2012 10:17

This is astounding - intense, fist-punching-the-air-stuff. I love it. Would love to hear this read - could you put up a recording?


Excellent.

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Greg Freeman

Wed 23rd May 2012 09:47

A cycling romance ... beautifully crafted. The humour of the first stanza means the very powerful final lines take you by surprise.

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Laura Taylor

Wed 23rd May 2012 09:41

How do you feel about writing in patois, Ray?

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Greg Freeman

Wed 23rd May 2012 09:36

Thanks for all the comments. Laura, I'll put you down for the next New Model Army - and maybe Alison,too. Nicely-crafted poem, MC, although there are a lot of arguments you don't include. My poem needs to be worked on to make it as a poem, but I'm glad it's started something (see Ray Miller's fine offering). The royal family is at the top of Britain's pyramid, and if you think that our country's potential is hamstrung by its class system - and I do - then it all starts with them. To adapt Johnny Rotten: "England's still dreaming." On the other hand, you could argue that the royal family is the one thing that unites many of us, and that getting rid of them would expose the divisions in this country even more. I would say, you've got to start somewhere. But if it would mean precipitating another civil war - and it might - then, yes, Isobel, let them have their glittering carriages, if it matters that much to them.

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Greg Freeman

Wed 23rd May 2012 09:22

Much more uplifting than mine, Ray! And a much better poem, too.

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Phillip Kelly

Tue 22nd May 2012 22:52

in In memory of Dike Omeje

the sound effects of assonance, internal rhyme and end rhyme works very effectively to create a flow. and i love the way that stanza 3 uses enjambement.........

superb methods of creating flow and rhythm here.

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Phillip Kelly

Tue 22nd May 2012 22:47

thanx.......wasnt sure whether it works or not, the repetition........what do u think?

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Gina Jarvi

Tue 22nd May 2012 21:07

A beautiful tribute to your Uncle Jim! Thank you.

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Isobel

Tue 22nd May 2012 19:50

Hmmm - I think you make your point very well in this poem Greg - and that last line is a killer.

I wouldn't put myself as a royalist - but then I'm not a roundhead either. I think old ladies would still have their homes used to offset nursing home costs, whether the royalty were there or not - it's because we are all living so long (thank you NHS) - but I do see the point you are making.

I quite like the Englishness of the whole monarchy thing - it differentiates us from much of the rest of the world - it's quaint. I don't have any statistics on it - but I imagine plenty of tourists are attracted to London, just to see the changing of the guards and because all that pomp and majesty.

I enjoyed the drum but it's not one that I'd bang myself.

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Julian (Admin)

Tue 22nd May 2012 18:05

Agreed, but to what avail? They love their queen, Greg. Bizarre, so it is. She did drive that ambulance in the war and her dad stayed in London in the blitz and all.
And she does now pay tax, though why it isn't backdated is a trifle odd.
Nah, MC is quite right, look at what we would lose: er...
I love that Tupperware bit. That reminds just a tad of Tony Walsh's poem, Posh Things.
Excellent.

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Laura Taylor

Tue 22nd May 2012 16:15

Got the stats for that MC? All my life I've heard about how the parasites bring in so much money to this country. Go on then, show me, show me how much and where it's being spent. Then give me a comparison as to how much it costs to keep the monarchy in place.

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Marianne Louise Daniels

Tue 22nd May 2012 15:18

gasp!

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alisonsmiles68@gmail.com

Tue 22nd May 2012 15:17

Completely thrown by the first line fingering reference until I did a double take. I visit an old lady who was born in the same year as the Queen. She lives in a ground floor one bed flat, relies on her neighbours (also elderly) for shopping and if they can't help goes without. She's just gone into respite because social services can't supply her current needs while she's poorly. I hear the sentiment here loud and clear, perhaps because it's been a bit of an emotional day for me with old lady friend. Your poem hit the spot.

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M.C. Newberry

Tue 22nd May 2012 15:14

I like where this led me. An unusual concept that contains the age-old conumdrum of how to deal with "first impressions" and how they can(mis)lead us to something worthwhile.

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M.C. Newberry

Tue 22nd May 2012 15:06

Reminded of Shakespeare's three witches when I'm not confounded by an image of hula skirts!!

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Julian (Admin)

Tue 22nd May 2012 15:02

I assume you mean 'aberration' Tommy?

Thank you Isobel. We are trying it with this project and we shall see how it works.

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M.C. Newberry

Tue 22nd May 2012 14:58

One born to lifetime service in the glare of public life
The other born to humdrum things, someone's
mother, someone's wife.
One admired around the world by nations so diverse
That some are wealthy beyond compare while others clutch their purse.
The other loved by nearer folk with her duty
bound to them
No goldfish bowl existence and no need for the
glittering gem.
One brings in far more money than her family
ever cost
For that alone, if the Crown were replaced,
a lot more would be lost.

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Laura Taylor

Tue 22nd May 2012 12:48

Ha - great piece Greg - just DRIPPING with contempt. Right up my street.

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alisonsmiles68@gmail.com

Tue 22nd May 2012 11:32

Ah, the power of repetition, lovely.

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Martin Peacock

Tue 22nd May 2012 10:12

Liked this very much, JC. Good rhythm, paced, and not knowing what a hulat is, tres intriguing! [by the way a jerk and a twist works best for me.]

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Tommy Carroll

Mon 21st May 2012 23:15

''I'm loving'' what foul abortion of the ingland langwige is that?

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Rachel Bond

Mon 21st May 2012 22:10

good title anne i think :)

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John Coopey

Mon 21st May 2012 21:04

"The Three Hulats" is a pub in Leeds. The name intrigued me - it isn't in my Concise Oxford!
I do now know what one is, although I prefer the inference I give the word in this poem.

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John Coopey

Mon 21st May 2012 20:51

Thanks for your comments on "Tanaburs", Yvonne. I'd just come off the phone from shoutng at my dad who hadn't got his hearing aid in; and I couldn't break the habit!

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John Coopey

Mon 21st May 2012 20:47

Thanks for your comments on "Tanaburs", MC. The idea was suggested by (plagiarised from) a by-line in Bernard Cornwell's "The Winter King" which I have just re-read. For anyone with an interest in The Dark Ages (Romano-British, Saxon, Viking) times his stuff is a cracking read. You may be best familiar with his televised Sharpe stories.

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Isobel

Mon 21st May 2012 20:13

I'd say there are page poems and there are page poems...

Some transfer quite easily to performance - the ones that are written to be understood. The other sort just leave an audience cold. I don't think it has anything to do with whether the poem is shouted, rapped or just spoken quietly.

A lot also depends on the audience. I've read to a room full of poets who aren't really listening - just waiting for their turn to 'shine'. I prefer audiences with a good balance.

I think page and performance poetry complement each other - the spoken word being capable of inspiring more people to look at poetry of all different types. To work on the page, performance poetry needs tightening up - the punctuation, the spelling and the layout does matter.

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Laura Taylor

Mon 21st May 2012 16:41

Thanks you two :)

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Isobel

Mon 21st May 2012 16:34

I'm loving the idea of being able to run/administer competitions on line, Julian. What a great addition to the WOL menu options! I'm hoping you might open it up also to the informal WOL comps we like to run now and again...

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Laura Taylor

Mon 21st May 2012 16:33

I think it's always been there

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Greg Freeman

Mon 21st May 2012 09:02

Fascinating review, Julian. I don't buy into the "page and performance poetry in opposing corners" argument - and I'm sure you don't. Many "page" poets read live - they have to, to spread the word - although they don't necessarily shout and make a song and dance about it. Anyway, at a spoken word night, it's probably good to have an "in-your-face" performer followed by a quieter one, to provide a bit of light and shade. At the same time, it's clear to me why academics aren't particularly interested in spoken word/live performance: there's nothing in it for them. They're not able to mediate between artist and listener, and interpret; they're not needed in that context, not required to add their levels of mystique and complication. Are academics like witch doctors? Discuss.

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Rachel Bond

Mon 21st May 2012 08:36

well im not shakespeare but we all get forgotten, sometimes while we still alive. without creativity we would surely get lost like a forever casual junkie. so just wanna say this is good and something you wouldnt just read and forget.

I am not afraid of ending, it is an endless cycle of skin and bone that kills me

this is one example of why i think that. great description
and that i like the irony that writing a good poem can go some way to save your own life and describe an existence that is much more than its words..

'less than not' is impossible for a writer by virtue of his words. interesting paradox :)

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Yvonne Brunton

Sun 20th May 2012 23:34

I'm pleased that you did not tell me that the picture was not of your room. I like a modicum of suspense. Oh, and thank you for the spare semicolon. I have put it in my bits and bobs drawer for future use. XX

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Yvonne Brunton

Sun 20th May 2012 23:30

I think this need a health warning - it's enough to awaken the dead including Tanaburs.
I hear they need a town crier in Aberystwyth. Failing that the fog horns packed in on the Anglesey light house. They could play this.
Enjoyably OTT.

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Ann Foxglove

Sun 20th May 2012 17:26

Hi Steven - welcome to WOL. Hope to see more of your poetry on here soon :)

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Jeff Dawson

Sun 20th May 2012 16:55

Well I'll be damned! Sorry Charlotte, trouble with this job, can't do right for doing wrong! Oh well, hope to make it up to you sometime, but all in a good cause if you're at Uni! Looking forward to your guest slot! X

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Charlotte Henson

Sun 20th May 2012 14:16

DAMN YOU JEFF I JUST NOTICED YOU BOOKED TONY WALSH ON MY BIRTHDAY AND EVERYTHING AND I'LL BE AT UNI THEN. DAMN YOU.

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Isobel

Sun 20th May 2012 09:59

Not to joke about it at all, but heart failure sounds a lot more poetic - there has to be a poem in that.

I'm glad to hear that you are well now.

Isobel x

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Richard Tyrone Jones

Sun 20th May 2012 09:56

Not a massive heart attack, but massive heart failure, and the facebook event is https://www.facebook.com/events/206236279489229/

Cheers, RTJ

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