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Fri 4th Oct 2013 16:42

a beautiful nightmare:)

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David Blake

Fri 4th Oct 2013 15:47

Very much enjoyed this Ian, especially 'Rustling in their cardigans/of orange and amber'.

Agree with Harry about how 'screaming' it seems. If only trees could actually talk, eh?

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David Blake

Fri 4th Oct 2013 15:38

Thanks for your comment on 'Weather Crossword' Andy. I appreciate it. Cheers - David.

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Harry O'Neill

Fri 4th Oct 2013 15:33


I like the way this midway between poem and short gangster story like thing is so completely in charge of itself. And the way it makes you read it again to look for any clues as to whether it`s suicide or not.

The doubt about what the knock is for makes that last line dramatic.

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Harry O'Neill

Fri 4th Oct 2013 14:57


Ian,
I can`t remember ever reading of nature`s
decay being `humanised` in this particular way.

I like the `dry skin` and the `crimpoline`
and the `deadfall wood`.

(maybe `and crack` after that dislodge)

It`s screaming decrepitude somehow `jolts` the
normally passive autumn

Poetry-wise it makes you think.

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Harry O'Neill

Fri 4th Oct 2013 14:32

This reminds me of when, in the eighties, I once marched behind one of those magnificently rebellious young militants chanting `Maggie, Maggie, Maggie…Out! Out! Out!......and,as we marched by, an equally magnificent old ex- military guy dressed in a fawn blazer and straw boater stood saluting rigidly to attention and singing `God Save The queen`. I felt at the time that I would have willingly served with the one and under the other in any future conflict to defend my country.

Not withstanding the lung-opening relief to be got from such occasions, I feel I must record that I myself (and four members of my family – three married) were– under the Thatcher regime–able to attend university and get decent jobs. I am, therefore in agreement that benefit recipients should go to school. (provided that the education they get is meaningful)

It was the `business friendly` labour government that allowed the banks to indulge themselves in the reckless gambling that resulted in the present dangerous situation. I think that a far greater danger than the old left-right arguments is the presentation of still more opportunities for reckless gambling afforded by the vote-catching government help to buy scheme. I know they say they`re `watching it` but presumably someone was `watching` the last housing bubble.(and worried more about their own `money-catching than looking after the shop responsibly).

I can`t help worrying about all the talk about `protecting the interests of the city of London` (weren`t they the main guys who started all this)

All this class-war stuff is just fighting the last war but one).

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Laura Taylor

Fri 4th Oct 2013 09:26

I liked this, nice use of rhyme throughout, and an interesting idea. Good build up of tension, and leaving the reader to wonder...who? Has the writer planned his own death? A strange form of suicide? Or maybe that's just me. I like that it's open to that interpretation, anyway.

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Laura Taylor

Fri 4th Oct 2013 09:22

Hi Andy and G

Many thanks for taking the time to read and comment. Will it do anything? Probably not, in all honesty, in terms of affecting Tory policies. However, the very important aspect of it is the strength of numbers, of the solidarity. A very public show of opposition. I myself took great strength from it. When you are spending your days veering between fury and frustration, to spend a day in the vast company of people who feel the same is very empowering.

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Richard

Fri 4th Oct 2013 09:04

Thanks to Poetry24 for publishing this on Wednesday 2 October I was away on holiday and missed it but it was a nice surprise none the less.

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John Coopey

Thu 3rd Oct 2013 22:50

I know what you're talking about. Keep bouncing back.

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Nick Coleman

Thu 3rd Oct 2013 18:40

Thanks for bringing Little Machine to me. Somehow I had never heard them until now. Superb interpretations of poems that had become almost too familiar, brings new life to them.

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M.C. Newberry

Thu 3rd Oct 2013 17:16

A marvellous asset to UK creative life - and how
amazing that folk should actually prize poetry
so much that they could consider stealing it!
I write as one lucky enough to have had a
published collection accepted (see the "cover"
accompanying this post) - and if anyone
should try to steal my book then I would feel
privileged for the unsought compliment implied!!

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Thu 3rd Oct 2013 17:08

Thank you for your service. My late father was stationed in London throughout the Second World War with the OSS, and the city's bombing. He said his handprints were on every sidewalk of London. He asked me once if I understood how Britain survived the war, and when I was silent, said, "because the whole People are valiant."

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M.C. Newberry

Thu 3rd Oct 2013 16:59

Food for thought: the ongoing personal puzzle of
the passing and the perennial - and their elusive
presence in our lives.
Welcome back.

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Laura Taylor

Thu 3rd Oct 2013 16:58

Go away MCN

Removed your comment - stop trying to show off

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M.C. Newberry

Thu 3rd Oct 2013 16:03

Interesting. I would have thought the poem's
"question" would've been aimed at ITV etc. rather
than the BBC whose alleged bias chimes with the
job ads. placed in "The Guardian".
So - where was the missing coverage complained
of - and why was it absent?

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Andy N

Thu 3rd Oct 2013 13:50

the truth to put it simply.

i love honest poetry like this.

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Andy N

Thu 3rd Oct 2013 13:49

need to refer this to our Cathy, Laura. It's defo her cup of tea also.

For me - I loved it to put it simply.

It's a great piece and i hope the demo does do something. We have to hope it does i guess.

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Gray Nicholls

Thu 3rd Oct 2013 13:46

excellent, excellent Laura. Raises some serious points here... kinda annoyed me that the BBC and some of the other news didn't cover as much as they should have.

does raise the point will the demo do anything however? i hope it does, but am worried it won't.

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Cathy Crabb

Thu 3rd Oct 2013 12:22

Thanks Steve. That's true and the only fact. X

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Cathy Crabb

Thu 3rd Oct 2013 12:17

Yes. On Saturday, when I wasn't allowed to go, the other team awarded him their man of the match. I am usually quiet but not when it comes to harm. It's a good lesson to learn I guess in not being able to solve everything.

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Laura Taylor

Thu 3rd Oct 2013 09:27

Haha - loving the new profile pic :D

And exactly, re chips/JCC. Bloody hell, it's not like he's advertising arms or owt is it?!

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Laura Taylor

Thu 3rd Oct 2013 09:24

Cheers Greg and Dave. Yep Greg, it was :) I'm really glad this poem moved you so much.


MC - Jog on, you tiresome right wing troll. You make a bigger show of yourself each time you post anything. Sad thing is, you don't see it yourself.

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Ian Whiteley

Wed 2nd Oct 2013 19:22

thanks, once again, for your kind and supportive comments on the JCC thing Laura - totally agree with you about the 'chips' thing, he deserves it - we'd all give our right arms to make that sort of money out of poetry - it's only the snobs who think you should forever suffer for your 'art' lol :-)
Ta
Ian

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Ian Whiteley

Wed 2nd Oct 2013 19:19

thanks for the kind comment on 'dust' starfish - much appreciated as always
Ian

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Ian Whiteley

Wed 2nd Oct 2013 19:18

thanks for the kind comments on 'dust' Isobel - yes, I was pleased with that ending which just dropped upon me, unplanned, from the....dust :-)
Cheers
Ian

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Ian Whiteley

Wed 2nd Oct 2013 19:17

thanks for the kind comments on 'dust' marksy - much appreciated mate
Ian

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Ian Whiteley

Wed 2nd Oct 2013 19:15

thanks for your kind comments on 'dust' Dave - it's a real pity when you write something that you think is profound only to find that someone else had the idea a long while ago :-( still - great minds think alike I suppose - and they do say that no idea is ever really unique

also - a big thanks for your kind comments on the JCC poem Dave - much appreciated as always

Ian

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Vik

Wed 2nd Oct 2013 18:06

Hi Cynthia - the poem's original language is English.

I've just added a scan of a handwritten translation into Bengali, done by Saleh Uddin Talukdar and Afia Begum during a workshop - but unfortunately not sure if it's legible - I thought we'd be able to click on the image to open it bigger in a new window, but I don't think that happens.

During the workshop there was lots of discussion about the layers of images in Carol's poem; the connotations of the "chaste, virgin, untouched" imagery and the way it's connected with snow and whiteness; and the idea of the bricks, and how to translate the idea of something that is at once structured, and also muddled.

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Mark Mr T Thompson

Wed 2nd Oct 2013 18:04

It is that time again tomorrow!

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M.C. Newberry

Wed 2nd Oct 2013 17:53

By all means, let us rejoice and celebrate the
freedom to protest against perceived injustice.
I'm not sure about who are "the many" and who
are "the few" when considering current national
sensibilities about the wider benefits of contributing through work whenever possible.
I'm considering the representation of lawyers
challenging a £500 per week cap on benefits at
the High Court. It is hardly likely to elicit
heartwarming sympathy from those working hard
for nothing like that gratis sum.

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M.C. Newberry

Wed 2nd Oct 2013 17:23

Thanks for the comments, one and all.
Ray - I was tempted to use "determined" in the last line but the alliteration of 'seem' & 'set'
appealed more and I was content to double up on
"to".
If you "sing" the first two lines - the word
'even' keeps the rhythm - IMHO.

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Steve Higgins

Wed 2nd Oct 2013 15:47

Fabulous -straight to the point!
Best wishes, Steve

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Steve Higgins

Wed 2nd Oct 2013 15:13

Thanks for looking in on red wine. Not my best work but and maybe too personal but I'll just say 'cheers'anyway, Steve

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Dave Bradley

Wed 2nd Oct 2013 13:34

Enjoyed this Ian. Particularly liked 'raging zeitgeist troubadour'.

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Dave Bradley

Wed 2nd Oct 2013 13:31

Wholeheartedly agree with Greg. The way that the Tories have cynically and hard-heartedly worked with the right-wing press to make 'benefits' a 'bad word' is sickening. We should be proud that this country does so much to look after those with needs - that we act like a proper community. Of course there are abuses and the system needs monitoring and administering. But it is still a wonderful thing. But we're now in a state in which politicians can hardly dare stand up and say what great things benefits are - and they ARE!!. Just ask anyone in a poorer country or look at our own history. Well done, Laura.

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Greg Freeman

Wed 2nd Oct 2013 12:35

Tories may sneer and mock, but I don't mind admitting, Laura, that I welled up reading this. What a moving, inspiring poem! Great that you mentioned Shelley, too. Don't know if it's true but I read somewhere that it was the greatest congregation of protesters in Manchester since Peterloo. Very fine piece of work. I will try and find this poem now and again, every time I feel I need to cheer myself up.

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Laura Taylor

Wed 2nd Oct 2013 11:15

Great idea for a poem! And when you perform it you're gonna HAVE to do it in a Salford drawl ;D

I've nowt against him doing that ad btw, it's up to bloody him innit?

Anyway, thought the repetition of Johnny Clarke very effective, and you didn't do the predictable thing of incorporating loads of his lines in your own poem.

Nice tribute.


Bloody hell Ray!! Did ya?! Woooo!!! You can still be working class and like nice wine and cake you know. Ahem.

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Laura Taylor

Wed 2nd Oct 2013 11:02

Howdy Cynth!

Many thanks for your lovely note on 'Fragment'. Can't begin to tell you how strong and euphoric the feeling was. The hypnagogic state is very similar to an opiated one, and I think that led to the feelings. I've tried in the past to teeter within the hypnagogic state as I find it so immensely pleasurable, but it's a contrary beast and will not be controlled easily ha :D

Yes - I would agree completely with you about the different layers of poetry and its reception. Sometimes I think a piece isn't 'good enough' to blog, and then I think 'well, this was such a strong thing within me, and it's not as 'good' as X or Y or Z, in a certain way, but that's because it is a DIFFERENT animal altogether'. So I blog it, and be damned haha ;D

Anyway, thanks again :)


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Ian Whiteley

Tue 1st Oct 2013 19:11

thanks ray - amended for accuracy following your knowledgeable comment :-)

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Tue 1st Oct 2013 17:32

;)))

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Paul Sands

Tue 1st Oct 2013 15:31

bad dreams and PPI :)

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Tue 1st Oct 2013 13:42

I love this poem, and the way it unconsciously ( perhaps) reflects modern physics.

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Cynthia Buell Thomas

Tue 1st Oct 2013 13:15

I believe you. I applaud you! I envy you. Never lose that dream. Even the poem above, just 'scribbled' in haste, carries much power.

Most poems that I consider 'great' are very simple ones, easily structured, easily stored in memory, and not necessarily supported or propped up by educated dictums.

To be honest, I'm not sure 'great poems' are even possible anymore. As in: 'great to whom'? The scope, and sheer numbers, of writers and readers has broadened so much, that perhaps there will now be only 'great poems in certain circles'. We have such distinct strata now, each reaching a particular audience, that cross-over may be severely limited. I sincerely believe that one 'type' cannot claim to be better than another. Such dialogue will be entirely within a particular layer.

So keep writing, shafting your great talent straight out to the world in your own inimitable way.

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Tue 1st Oct 2013 13:08

"Song to the Sea" is stirring and deeply touching. The fourth stanza knocked me off my feet- to my eyes, a single poem.

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Cynthia Buell Thomas

Tue 1st Oct 2013 12:33

I totally agree that the word was taken out of context within 'social banter'. It wasn't smart. but it wasn't dreadful either, in the circumstances. The women in the group probably laughed. You'll notice the actual clip appeared very fast and only once, that I saw. In the correct meaning of the word 'slut', most of us girls (and guys) qualify at some time or other. I do have a problem with whether or not Bloom knew the difference between 'slut' and 'whore'. Maybe that's really where the UKIP gang had the inner knowledge, and needed to cut their ties asap.

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Cynthia Buell Thomas

Tue 1st Oct 2013 12:22

I do like work that seems to be 'unlinked' or 'linked wherever the reader chooses to connect'. This is not an easy poem, but it does have a certain dynamism. 'square' and 'cask' certainly got my attention, as they seem utterly the opposite. And the ending is quite profound.

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Tue 1st Oct 2013 11:33

beautiful poem

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Starfish

Tue 1st Oct 2013 10:23

Hi
My neighbours cat disappeared and was found much later curled in a ball under the stairs dead. I think they find a quiet place when they are ill. Fortunately, the field mouse was a figment of my imagination.

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Vik

Tue 1st Oct 2013 10:20

I celebrated International Translation Day yesterday by trying a Spanish version of Fran’s poem! My Spanish isn't really up to the task of rhyming - but I had a go. I managed it OK a coupla times (usually by sacrificing the metre, ha) but the rest of the time I settled for a sort of vague assonance :-)

Things I noticed:
Line 3 – translated word-for-word, it woulda been really long; so I found a way to shorten it that I think works OK (Literally, “I came home; his empty wardrobe left me stunned”)

Line 8 – I coulda used the more normal verb “amancebarse” (to live together), but I think “vivir en concubinato” has the same florid, slightly tongue-in-cheek flavour of “live in sin”.

The “he picks his nose” line – I so liked the snappy internal rhyme of “nose/clothes” that I had to try and get a rhyme in - so I had to change the meaning.“Marear la perdiz”– literally “to make the partridge dizzy”– is a funny idiom that means a combination of mucking others around, stalling/time-wasting when you should be doing something important, and not getting to the point or getting on with stuff. It's a bit of a stretch but hey, I tried :-)

Last line – I completely ignored the “bloody”, cos swearing in another language is the quickest way to sound silly (well OK maybe not the quickest, but…) I'd love to know what someone with decent Spanish would say for this.
vik x

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