Knife crime with a flourish

Stick it in, twist it round, pull it out

the red faced Sergeant Majors shout,

those black boys make such good recruits

just teach them drill and give them boots.

 

This country has a wealth men

devoid of hope unknowing zen,

so fix the blade and set them off

a torn off rag for the Molotov.

 

Bayonets glinting in the schools,

to not be used we’d look like fools.

It’s only crime when it breaks the law

and we make that, we’re who it’s for.

 

The line is long and plentiful

of fathers, sons and bastards all

we’ll turn them into medalled whores

and waste the fuckers in our wars.

◄ Fleabag

Jean's hands ►

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Wolfgar Miere

Sun 10th Mar 2019 15:30

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0nmHymgM7Y

😎😎😎😎

Open your minds.

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Wolfgar Miere

Fri 8th Mar 2019 11:32

Hi Peter,

Thanks for taking the time to respond in such a thoughtful way, your words make complete sense to me.

I very much understand how any writer can take his readers only so far, the rest is up to them. In that gap lies understanding and interpretation which is very much for the individual reader.

When I consider that belief it helps to dissipate my frustrations, making me think they are driven by shallow egotistical energy which I need to dispense with.

Thanks so much,

David.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suK5iqVxmTE

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Peter Taylor

Thu 7th Mar 2019 21:50

Hello David.

Finally I have managed to sit down and read the exchanges between various poets on Knife Crime with a Flourish. You have written a wonderful poem and the audio is compelling.

While I can understand frustration (on your part, pointing the finger at yourself), your work appears to me as being authentic, wise, angry (sometimes, as may be required) and brave. For most of us life is not exactly at the sharp end; yours is and I imagine that for you it demands reduction to writing and a vocal record. To do this well, as you do, is tough, as the audience struggle hard to put itself in your shoes. Doing it in the form of poetry is an extra layer of difficulty but you succeed.

Given this imbalance, there are bound to be, I guess, occasions when the audience just isn't able to track exactly your thought processes but this is what poetry is all about. Applauded ambiguity in other contexts can perhaps appear to the author, in this one, to be a failure to connect fully at either or both ends of the communication. You make it plain that this is your problem to solve – but I am very sure that all who read your work really do want to help with the solution. What you write is part of our landscape and is of its nature important. Thank you for its creation.

Peter

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Wolfgar Miere

Thu 7th Mar 2019 04:42

Thanks Kate and Rachel.

I think that sometimes precision is something to be observed Rachel, but on the occasions I feel the way you have expressed yourself here I would share your sentiment.

Kate my comment was really generic and definitely not directed to any of your responses which I always appreciate.

I have always spoken about interpretation being the ownership of the reader so am conscious that it is possible to become overly possessive about what we write. Also the very purpose of writing is often to initiate conversation in different directions with alternate points of view, I'll make a note to self and try not to forget that.

Thanks again folks.

David.

Kate G

Wed 6th Mar 2019 22:24

Hi David, I read your account quickly and was in a place where I couldn't listen to the audio. The misinterpretation came from me in this case... A lesson in listening to the audio. Sorry about that. It didn't detract from it's power. Glad your son is okay.

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elPintor

Wed 6th Mar 2019 21:04

More words only dig your(my, her, his, our, their) hole deeper--fuck precision x

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdl5sox2G6g

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Wolfgar Miere

Wed 6th Mar 2019 20:17

Thanks for your comments and likes folks.

I had been trying to write a poem about Larkin about his genius and his pomposity mixed together, how neither really matter when I simply focus on his words.

Like enjoying Wagner and not having to feel guilty about it. Anyway this subject got me angry and thinking, so Phil was set aside and I seem to have momentarily lost traction with the idea.

My boy seems OK, I'm sure he will be.

What worries me about the hazardous nature of writing is that so often we draw conclusions about the intentions of others and what exactly they are attempting to convey. I get a real sense that much of what I write is misunderstood or misinterpreted. If so it is hugely frustrating and consequently gives me cause to be more precise with my reading of the words of others.

David.

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raypool

Wed 6th Mar 2019 13:42

Highly affecting account David. Obviously where there is fear there will be hatred, enough said. That in the hands of the some would be enough to produce social insecurities. There is obviously increased surveillance on the streets, but from a distance. It does sicken me to hear the glib remarks of the first lady and the constant barricading of common sense. A musician I know was set upon in Boston Lincs for no reason at all. He got away after just verbal abuse.
You do your best for your family and what more can you do? You did the right thing of course. I have dedicated a few lines (corrupted) to go with the state element of your post. "I'd like to teach the world to kill, in perfect harmony". Sorry that is sick I know, but aren't we in that area.

Love Ray

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Dorothy Webb

Wed 6th Mar 2019 11:05

David
I do hope that your son fully recovers.

The strengh and intensity of your poem is gripping.
It reveals a world that I have no knowledge of - and that is a good thing - it should be talked about with honesty and not in lurid sound bites.
Thank you for sharing this gritty hard hitting poem.
Dorothy

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Jason Bayliss

Wed 6th Mar 2019 10:40

I too have some experience with this and I don't know what the answer is but one thing I do know is, with people who are prepared to hurt others with weapons, if you focus on taking away one weapon they find a different one to hurt others with. Our knife laws are good enough, it's police on the streets we need, to enforce them, followed by the destruction of the stupid gang culture. As a child of the 1970's we all had pocket knives and to this day I would never, ever dream of using one as a weapon. In my hands it's a tool and nothing more because that's what I was taught. I've had to deal with people with these when they're used as weapons and it is very unnerving.
Hope your boy gets well soon mate.

J.

Kate G

Wed 6th Mar 2019 08:37

As usual David, there's a grit and authenticity in your work that makes heels click to attention.
I too feel conflicted about military service. I was an idealist when I signed up, and saw peace keeping operations as an opportunity to serve others. I was a linguist and helped at peace talks, and in vaccination runs for aid agencies in remote villages. But so much left me uneasy. With my husband's continuing service, I have really struggled sometimes, particularly with the situation in the Middle East where the line between combatant and civilian is hard to define. I do hope your son is okay.

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Wolfgar Miere

Wed 6th Mar 2019 08:17

Thanks Rachel,

as you say vulnerability is a word which comes to mind also some level of exploitation. I am not saying that military service cannot steer young people in a better direction, it undoubtedly can and does. Merely that it is not a definitive answer to our country's (UK) growing social unrest.

The quick fix merchants love sound-bites and headlines, politicians are wonderful at it...promising and not delivering. Our lying scheming witch of a Prime Minister is particularly adept at untruths, I mean who would know better about the correlation between cuts to Police budgets and knife crime, her or a serving/former Chief Constable?

Maybe if she had to walk the streets of Stratford after dark she'd think twice.

Also the legitimising of murder by the state is another endless debate, one which I have pondered for years. Having been a tool in that process I have very mixed feelings about it, they are not all negative by any means.

Relating my sons experience verbally helps me to understand the fear he may have experienced, it can be difficult to tune into that and to think how it might impact on others.

Still we must move on and be grateful that things were not worse.

David.

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elPintor

Wed 6th Mar 2019 05:11

The confrontation sounds intense--I'm very glad to hear that he escaped safely. As you know, an event like that is a lot to process--times like this can make our bad experiences very valuable tools for understanding those we love.

There's a lot that comes to mind after listening and reading--more than I could possibly say sitting here at my keyboard. 'Vulnerability' is a word that really stands out, though.

Take good care, to you and your son,

Rachel

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