Do you want to talk about it?

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Trauma like a black hole

into which everything is drawn,

where merely to survive you must believe

it gets dark before the dawn.


And in strobe-flash memories

grotesque visions you will see,

and it gets dark before the dawn

don’t trust yourself, hear me.


Devils have your interests

and a special place for you,

a paradise of loathing

a heaven pure and true


where you can thrash your broken body

and torture your own mind,

seeking corners of the forgotten

where there’s fuck all left to find.


Where the blows and beatings merge

into frequencies of sound,

that the human ear won’t register

as the fists and head-butts pound.


So when you ask and I don't hear

I hear you all too well,

but I’m silenced by a frozen fear

that keeps me here in hell.  


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Wolfgar Miere

Fri 19th May 2017 15:05

Thank you Jade,

I suppose I shouldn't be pleased that this resonated with you, but I am grateful for your reading and commenting.

Many thanks,


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Jade Johannsen

Fri 19th May 2017 12:23

Every single line resonates.

Thank you for this David.

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Wolfgar Miere

Wed 17th May 2017 14:37

Thank you Dom,

much appreciated.


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Dominic James

Tue 16th May 2017 12:10

Excellent, and the recording comes across very well, really well read, we should all have doubts about poetry, this answers some of the questions.

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Wolfgar Miere

Tue 16th May 2017 07:50

Thank you Frances,

For me allowing some of my more personal thoughts out in public has been a positive experience, I wouldn't be so reckless as to recommend it to everyone, as it does carry an element of risk. That said the pay off can be very liberating.

I am very fortunate to have had such great support from many people here on WoL, you being one of them.

To receive such praise from you is humbling indeed.

Thanks again.


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Frances Macaulay Forde

Tue 16th May 2017 04:59

I agree with everyone here - especially Graham: it's a stand-out piece. I also appreciate the thoughtful editing - the fine construction and clever lines which seem so easily expressed but are not.
Excellent writing, David, doing what poetry is meant to do.
May I also say, this piece (for me) shows the steady development of your unique voice from my discovery a few months ago, to now... I know it will get stronger too.
It seems you've decided to allow your readers in and given them permission to experience moments of your truth... and I am very thankful.
(Congratulations on a well-deserved Poem Of The Week too.)

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Wolfgar Miere

Mon 15th May 2017 14:40

Thanks Anna, much appreciated.


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Anna Ghislena

Mon 15th May 2017 12:38

This poem is so strong and deeply impressing. Congratulations on winning POTW. Well deserved here. Anna.

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Wolfgar Miere

Mon 15th May 2017 08:21

Thanks Natasha,

I'm very grateful for your reading and comments.

All the best,


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Ralph Dartford

Sun 14th May 2017 22:27

Hi David,

This is charged from the outset, both in the writing and in the reading.

You can hear and see the white noise of it, the muffled explosions of numbness.

Outstanding and brave. Written from knowledge as the best poems must be.


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Natasha Townsend

Sun 14th May 2017 15:15

Honest, raw, dark and real.

"and it gets dark before the dawn

don’t trust yourself, hear me."

My bag. A worthy winner, well done. Xx

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Wolfgar Miere

Tue 9th May 2017 15:57

Thanks so much to all of you for your reading and thoughtful comments, I actually feel it was worth while writing this piece.

So often poems are like Chinese food, soon after writing they're just not enough.

So many comments offering points for discussion and contemplation here.

I have to say a special thank you to Laura for her exceptional response to this, it was very brave of her to respond as she did, and although her story is difficult for her to discuss/write I'm so pleased she shared it.

If you haven't already checked out her poem 'I did want to talk' I would recommend having a look.

Here it is:

Thanks again,


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Laura Taylor

Tue 9th May 2017 11:28

I couldn't help but write something, as a kind of response to this. I'm loath to mention anything concrete here as I've trod on your toes before and the reaction was fearsome.

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Graham Sherwood

Tue 9th May 2017 09:07

Whatever, anyone else might say the words in this rhyme are equally strong in each verse.

Indeed it is difficult to find a favourite line.

Whether your personal experiences are depicted through this piece or not, it stands up as a solid and well crafted work.

Perhaps V4 just gets it over the rest on further consideration.

This is a standout piece for me David.

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Juan Pablo Lynch

Mon 8th May 2017 23:58

The imagery is thick in this one. Your recital of the poem was also dead on. Reminded me of the narrator from goosebumps, I hope you don't mind me saying that.

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Mon 8th May 2017 23:44

Suki makes an excellent point. The coaxing out of personal feelings by others is sometimes for their own comfort or to be held against you at their convenience. Anyone that would bait you with prodding, softly disguised as sympathy or anything else, doesn't deserve your answers.


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suki spangles

Mon 8th May 2017 23:11

Hi David,
This so-called confessional age can also sometimes be a tyranny of sorts, where to shut up is seen as somehow not being a good sport, almost.

Each to their own; we all have our own ways of dealing with things. Oprah Winfrey is not God. Blasphemy eh?


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Paul Waring

Mon 8th May 2017 22:49

Hi David,

What you have written about here (which I have no doubt relates to your own experiences) is, for most of us, almost too painful to imagine. And from what I know of you as a person so far, I believe that you are writing this not simply as catharis but so that others might relate to the content. I can't imagine how difficult it must be to manage these memories but I sincerely hope that writing about it helps both you and others in some way.


Edit: I've just read your reply to Ray. I agree with you about the title. My experience of working with people who have suffered PTSD supports this - as you already know David, for many the act of talking about trauma only serves to re-live distressing experiences. Sorry for the ramble. x

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Wolfgar Miere

Mon 8th May 2017 21:05

Thanks Ray,

I appreciate your words here.

I think I put a curse on this by giving it the title I did, which in a way I find pleasing, as it drives home my point really, as a resounding NO to the posed question.

I feel absolutely vindicated.

Thanks Ray,


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Mon 8th May 2017 16:55

My mind is always open to you David if nothing is said it is still read. You reading this is quite a revelation.

I often think of you and people suffering from the business of registering life in unique ways and ask myself questions about idly standing by and being helpless .

It's easy to talk of death but surviving is not so sexy or riveting....


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