Christian Ward

Sun 13th May 2012 15:34

Your poetry makes me smile...great stuff, Attila

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Sun 13th May 2012 15:29

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Sun 13th May 2012 14:53


I get very jealous of those on here who can play instruments (you don`t know how lucky you are) I agree with John, this sounds like a winner.

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Harry O'Neill

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Sun 13th May 2012 14:14

Chris and Yvonne,
You were both right,it does end it better...changed it...also deleted the original last stanza as being a bit too braggy and sycophantic...and substituted `differing` for the over P.C. `amiable` in the third.

THANKS for the positive criticism.

For Chris:
Couldn`t find an atheist spire anywhere...and as for Everton?...hold on a minute. I`m all for this ecumenical stuff but some things are just a step too far (do you realise, they might finish higher in the league than us this year...be reasonable man!)

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Yvonne Brunton

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Sun 13th May 2012 13:59

Is the term 'an honest MP' an oxymoron?

Why are MPs allowed to stand for anywhere in the country instead of only being allowed to represent their home area ( a bit like the yorkshire cricket player rules)

How has Switzerland survived without joining the EU?

How long is a piece of string?

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Yvonne Brunton

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Sun 13th May 2012 13:48

Great theme of 'you don't miss what you never had. I especially like the lines

'Love was a caller disinclined

To come knocking at my locked door'

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Sun 13th May 2012 13:46

Yvonne Brunton

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Sun 13th May 2012 13:30

Hi Tommy,
Thanks for your comment on 'Kitchen - Made'. I am just waiting for someone to order one as well,now!

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Yvonne Brunton

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Sun 13th May 2012 13:22

Hi Cynthia,
Thanks for you comments on Kitchen - Made. I see what you mean about the last line It would be punchier but it leaves me with a missing rhyme and perhaps the possessive 'my' reinforces the volte face. XX

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ray miller

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Sun 13th May 2012 12:43

Thanks, Isobel.I can see me spending the rest of my life searching for an apt title for this sodding poem.By Poor Poem I mean in the sense of "Ah, poor poem!"feeling sorry fot it. The sentiments apply to any poem, though it's true a lot of mine are poor!I could call it Labour, I suppose, summat like that.

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Rachel Bond

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Sun 13th May 2012 12:09

hi howard, thered be no point in us all writing if no one was reading :) thanks

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Tommy Carroll

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Sun 13th May 2012 12:09

The term 'loony left' is in the same vain as 'Lazy blacks' and 'stupid Irish' i'm sure readers can add to that list.
Another misnomer is 'the country' in reference to an equality of gains and loss and unity of purpose pertaining to the population as a whole. Any dim-wit (I am most definitely NOT including yourself in this Lynn) can tell the massive disparity that exist between differing sections within society in terms of income and opportunity and social aims.
As for the role of the 'socialist leaderships' of the working class, it (the working class) has a long tradition of 'support' for Social Democratic parties and Unions because of the very many gains made by workers in their support of those organisations.
Very many workers absent themselves from the 'political process' owing to disillusionment in that process and an historical betrayal of them by their 'leaders'. The 'leadership' of the working class have also suffered the abandonment of the said principles that have been forged in battle with the ruling class and the sacrifices made in the defense of jobs, communities and their children's future.
Too many people mock those principles and the sacrifices made by millions of women and men fighting for those futures.
And Lynn, as for 'honesty' to solve those problems, well the Capitalists (and their executive branch the Tory party) backed up with the right wing press would (and do)scoff at such demands. Having said that Lynn I proffered the same demand 'Honesty'(in a discussion with friends) years before the film which starred Jim Carrey in the film 'Liar Liar'appeared.
In closing Lynn I enjoyed reading your poem and welcome the debate it has raised. Tommy :o)

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Joshua Van-Cook

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Sun 13th May 2012 09:23

Well done Lynn, I've never seen my thoughts on this matter so well expressed.

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Isobel

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Sat 12th May 2012 23:54

I'd say the poem is about what you say in the title - something you've created that isn't necessarily good enough to survive close scrutiny. And no - it doesn't take long before anything drowns beneath the weight of others - particularly on this site :)

It's a metaphor I've seen used in this way before, but maybe not taken to the same extremes.

'After thoughts just rot inside the skin' - I can identify with that. I think we've all released something out into the ether that we are less than happy with. It's hard to work up the enthusiasm to change it, once it has gone - and if we accept the ideas of other people too much, it ceases to feel like our own poem. It becomes bastardised - to continue your metaphor... :)

I struggled with the line 'A cord is broke' I want to add an n.

Other than that, an interesting read.

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John Coopey

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Sat 12th May 2012 22:38

Sounds like a winner, MC. Will you re-post when it's sett music?

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ray miller

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Sat 12th May 2012 20:39

Thanks, Steve and Yvonne. Much as I liked the previous title it was maybe OTT. Anyhow, I've tried to alter the tone a little.

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andy n

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Sat 12th May 2012 20:09

love this a lot, Lucy.. has a sense of language straight up my street x

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andy n

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Sat 12th May 2012 20:07

looking forward to reading here matey.. will be a top afternoon.. andy

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M.C. Newberry

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Sat 12th May 2012 19:13

My sister has an African Grey parrot - which
is lord of all it surveys from its spacious cage facing out of the window on to the street
a few yards away. Occasionally, she takes him into the garden and gives him a shower and he
seems more than happy to find his way back into
his cage home without any encouragement. These
birds - they walk around in the wild - seem
strangely content and reassured by their defined home surroundings altho' I am not in
favour of other breeds being caged. In other
days and in other countries still, you could/can buy a caged bird for the pleasure of letting it fly free. A worse side to caged
birds is the Italian shooting season when the
latins shoot at just about everything that is
flying/migrating overhead.

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M.C. Newberry

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Sat 12th May 2012 19:02

Writing for such a good cause is to be applauded heartily.
It gets better as it goes on. The vocal line becomes more reognisable as the youngsters get
used to the tune, and if I were to offer a songwriter's tip - discard the last two of each
four last line repeats and place real emphasis the 2nd (last) of what remains.
You can have too much of a good thing and it
runs the risk of seeming to be "forced".

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M.C. Newberry

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Sat 12th May 2012 18:51

On the subject of long term effects...good or bad -
we are witnessing demonstrations by public sector workers in defence of pensions. Fair
enough, but these are paid for by the private
sector - and who plundered the most admired
private pension system in the world to the
tune - it is recently reported - of many tens of billions whilst harping on piously about "prudence"? Why, a certain socialist
Chancellor/Prime Minister, that's who!
I bet these marchers, with their union banners very much in evidence, happily voted for his Party and its policies before the piper began to call the tune and a little reality set in.
"Chickens coming home to roost" comes to mind.

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chris yates

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Sat 12th May 2012 18:36

we all need freedom especially the feathered kind and this poem makes me want to fly away x

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chris yates

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Sat 12th May 2012 18:34

Hi Hazel I didn't realise you were on here love the poems,keep them coming xx

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Cynthia Buell Thomas

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Sat 12th May 2012 18:08

Very clever and funny and only too true, as we succumb to advertising. A suggestion - consider the last two lines as:

'So...

When can you deliver!'

Short, punchy, and maybe, even funnier. The rest of the line is a given anyway.

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Laura Taylor

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Sat 12th May 2012 16:31

Hang on...deafness? Well, that's surprised me!! You keep writing, and I'll see thee at the next Tudor :) xx

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Lynn Dye

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Sat 12th May 2012 15:06

Thank you MC for your comments. I am sure you are right in as much as the Tories believed their measures were what the country needed for the long term. But they are hardly working, when they are needing to borrow even more money for unemployment, while receiving less tax revenue. Added to that more and more people have no money to spend in a consumer based society, which hits many of our businesses, creating still more unemployment.
I have mixed views on the EU, but certainly take your point, and I admire your optimism that things will be better in a year or maybe three.


Greg,
Thanks for comment, yes, you are right, but my point was - where is the loony left these days?!

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Greg Freeman

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Sat 12th May 2012 14:28

Vote loony left, is what I say, Lynn!

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M.C. Newberry

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Sat 12th May 2012 14:08

The unanswered question is WHY would any elected political party actually choose to make unpopular decisions that might prevent
its re-election? Since that suggests self-
destructing idiocy - and one can hardly imagine public school minds seeking that - perhaps the Tories really believe that they are obliged to do what they do...for the long
term. It's been said that a week is a lifetime in politics so who knows what people
will be saying in a year...let alone three...
when things are very likely to be better than now. Perhaps we should haul back on the billions we send each year to an unaccountable
political entity in Brussels and spend it closer to home. But I can just imagine the
cries of anguish from the Lib-Dems who vote
for anything EU and would have had us give up
our currency for the Euro.

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fiona sinclair

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Sat 12th May 2012 12:13

Thank you all for your kind comments.The poem is i think still a work in progress. So shall re-post when I have edited it.

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Hazel

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Fri 11th May 2012 23:50

Thank you Laura for your great comment. I was asked had I been on stage when I was younger, but have always been a bit shy because of my deafness.
Hazel

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Hazel

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Fri 11th May 2012 23:39

Thank you Lynn for your comment on Bird in a Cage.
Hazel

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Tommy Carroll

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Fri 11th May 2012 23:17

Well researched Yvonne :o)

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Lynn Dye

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Fri 11th May 2012 22:32

I can identify with this, Hazel. It doesn't seem right to me to keep birds in cages either, even more so after reading this, so well done.

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Philipos

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Fri 11th May 2012 21:21

Hi Greg, sounds like I missed a good night. Next time maybe!

CHEERS. P.

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Yvonne Brunton

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Fri 11th May 2012 21:10

aaahh cute. When was it recorded?

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Yvonne Brunton

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Fri 11th May 2012 21:06

I agree with Chris about .....Liverpudlian way making a cracking final line.
Loved the sentiments.

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Yvonne Brunton

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Fri 11th May 2012 20:57

Ah such wit! loadza laffs. XX

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Yvonne Brunton

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Fri 11th May 2012 20:56

By heck Ray, you gave me some uncomfortable feeling with this one.If, as Steve says, it's a metaphor for writing it is a jolly good one.Although writing is not as traumatic as excising the 'gems' one has produced that do not actually bear scrutiny. XX

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Philipos

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Fri 11th May 2012 19:57

Hi Greg, would liked to have seen it especially knowing how good shows have been there in the past (am also waiting for a hernia op' BTW).

CHEERS.

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Greg Freeman

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Fri 11th May 2012 18:31

Phil, dinnae worry about Bugsy. I only mentioned it to you because you're local. I went to see it last night and the missus delivered a remarkable performance in various cameo comedy roles, including an outrageous diva and a bemused Chinese laundry lady.

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ray miller

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Fri 11th May 2012 17:53

Hello Phillip. Thanks for the comments on As It Is. Much appreciated. It's really just an ironic commentary on a religious text.Is that a Wigan kit you're wearing? Can we have your manager?
A Villa Fan

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steve black

Fri 11th May 2012 17:42

Well-crafted Tommy. I found this intriguing, ignorance is bliss or not as the case maybe. I've interpreted it in a couple of ways but I cannot make up my mind. It's a riddle wrapped up in an enigma.

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Tommy Carroll

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Fri 11th May 2012 17:41

That's what I meant Deb ;o)
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steve black

Fri 11th May 2012 17:34

Not an easy poem by any means but worth a try. I'm sure I've read this before but with a different title, if I remember rightly, it is a metaphor for writing. You could however take it completely differently. I don't know whether that is a good thing or not.

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Fri 11th May 2012 17:32

'Outside...a hand for change' is chilling, followed by '...drops like bombs'. IMO, in your work, the exactly obvious is never what you're really saying, even if you think it is. Whatever - what you choose to see and do and write about greatly interests my mind.

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Cynthia Buell Thomas

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Fri 11th May 2012 17:18

I like the theme, the mutual emotional support over the dying father, and then, of each other physically: 'Can I sleep in here tonight?' At the end, knowing the worst scenario, and finally privy to 'the grown-up truth', 'pride' is a real twist, and yet, very universal.

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steve black

Fri 11th May 2012 16:54

I had no issue with the intended meaning, I just thought it was less poetic than the preceding two lines.

After the recent misunderstanding I thought I might qualify my comments, my intent is never to undermine the writer or the writing. Sometimes I use humour which I concede may well be misconstrued. Having said that, I've never bought into the notion that poets are 'special cases,' I've always hoped that WOL was a community of like-minded souls and therefore some kind of literary dialogue was welcomed. I'll remove this paragraph shortly.

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Cynthia Buell Thomas

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Fri 11th May 2012 16:53

Hilarious.

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attila the stockbroker

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Fri 11th May 2012 16:18

well, Philip, as you can see I haven't, in fact I've got loads and loads of gigs all over the place, which means the public isn't as apathetic towards me as you'd obviously like :)


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Cynthia Buell Thomas

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Fri 11th May 2012 16:04

The review is a bit long-winded, but it does cover some good points.

In my opinion, we are now completing a full circle back to the bards of ancient years, the oral traditions in all cultures, mostly minus the musical instrument. 'Performance poetry' can be, and often is, barely more than prose turned/versed as the performer pleases, according to audience feedback. What exactly makes it poetry, except that the performer says it is so, and the audience doesn't object? I think the 'open-mic' piece really should be 'a poem' with the basic skills of poetry crafting well observed, a 'work' that would be recognizable as 'a poem' on paper. What we really need is a completely NEW WORD to cover these performances. And concrete tuition in the theatrical presentation of a one-man show.

The above scenario is entirely separate from the gatherings of like-minded people who share their poetry in a spirit of friendship and mutual criticism. Such meetings, long in existence below the academic radar, are becoming more high profile in our popular culture.

Perhaps, the ideal is an 'open-mic' practice session, a 'stop-and-start again' idea where the participants are interactive. Then, the actual open-mic performance would be of much higher quality. These sessions would be at a level far below the current Slams, not competitive, more inclusive.

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